push button p.t.o. engagement

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930ck

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allis d 17/ case 930, 1370/ kubota L5740
All my tractors have a clutch that engages the pto was curious when using a bushhog type mower if the push button engagement slowly starts the pto turning or is it more like the way an electric clutch on a riding lawn mower kicks in?
 
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All my tractors have a clutch that engages the pto was curious when using a bushhog type mower if the push button engagement slowly starts the pto turning or is it more like the way an electric clutch on a riding lawn mower kicks in?

It is fairly abrupt. I throttle down then engage the button. It is not a big bang and works well, but I could engage it slower with a clutch.

James K0UA
 
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According to the fellow that delivered my DK45 HST, it will gradually go up to speed. I'll let you know later today- I'm going to the barn to hook up the Bush Hog when I finish my coffee and TBN browsing in about 10 minutes.:thumbsup:
 
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On the kioti and mahindra tractors I have been looking at there is an auto feature on the pto switch, what does that do?
 
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The Auto PTO feature turns the PTO off when the implement is raised by the three point hitch above a certain height, and turns it back on when the implement is lowered.
 
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Auto engages the pto when the lift arms are down and disengages when you lift the attachment. Not sure where exactly the on off point is, suspect fairly low - but I've never used it. Too much chance to drop the mower at high rpm and shock the whole works.
 
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On the kioti and mahindra tractors I have been looking at there is an auto feature on the pto switch, what does that do?

I have seen one poster say they used it and it is fine, He was using it on a tiller.. I don't like the idea of it, I would prefer to engage at low RPM, and under my control. I am afraid it would be a big bang to start the rotary cutter at high RPM settings.. Hard to say, for sure as I have never tried it, too chicken I guess.:eek:

James K0UA
 
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These electric over hydraulic PTO deals are great. Like others, I engage mine at idle, and the slowly bring the revs up, when I'm done, I slowly lower the rpms and shut it off. Only heard of on problem where the switch went bad, easy fix, and saves on clutch wear for those that like to ride the clutch.
 
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Unlike another L5740 owner who posted above, my L5740 engagement is abrupt. It is a multiple wet disk clutch with electro-hydraulic control. Push the button, hydraulic flow goes to the spring disengaged clutch and pushes the plates together. I start my mower at low idle and bring it up. If I do want a very easy engagement I have the foot clutch that controls all power flow from the engine to the back end so I can feather that but I find the push button at low idle is smooth enough.
 
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MHarryE said:
Unlike another L5740 owner who posted above, my L5740 engagement is abrupt. It is a multiple wet disk clutch with electro-hydraulic control. Push the button, hydraulic flow goes to the spring disengaged clutch and pushes the plates together. I start my mower at low idle and bring it up. If I do want a very easy engagement I have the foot clutch that controls all power flow from the engine to the back end so I can feather that but I find the push button at low idle is smooth enough.

Is kubota the only mfg. That has a foot clutch on a hydro tractor?
 
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Is kubota the only mfg. That has a foot clutch on a hydro tractor?

Yesterday, I test-drove a Bobcat CT225, and it had a foot clutch for the PTO. I assume the others in the CT2XX line are the same.
 
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Is kubota the only mfg. That has a foot clutch on a hydro tractor?

Some manufacturers have it both ways and different models have a clutch while others don't. Left and right brake pedals also change within a single brand depending on model. It would be nice if tractor controls were standardized at least to the level that automobiles are, but that's a pipe dream.:(
 
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Looks like if I buy a tractor with no foot clutch I had better replace the shear pin with a slipclutch, just to make it easier on the tractor pto, probably should do it no matter what.
 
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Well, after spending the day with my Bush Hog, it was not as gentle a start as I had with my old manual tractor. I started it at a low idle, but it still gives a pretty good jolt. I use really soft shear bolts and didn't break any, so it must not be too bad.
 
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Well, after spending the day with my Bush Hog, it was not as gentle a start as I had with my old manual tractor. I started it at a low idle, but it still gives a pretty good jolt. I use really soft shear bolts and didn't break any, so it must not be too bad.

That was my impression also.. No sheared bolts, but I could have started it smoother with a clutch... But we ain't got no stinking clutch:laughing: It seems Ok, and it sure is convenient.

James K0UA
 
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k0ua said:
That was my impression also.. No sheared bolts, but I could have started it smoother with a clutch... But we ain't got no stinking clutch:laughing: It seems Ok, and it sure is convenient.

James K0UA

Well as I look for a tractor, since rotary mowing is something it will be doing alot, may have to put a plus in the comparison column of the tractor that has a clutch that can be used to feather the pto in, just won't be a deal breaker.
 
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Well as I look for a tractor, since rotary mowing is something it will be doing alot, may have to put a plus in the comparison column of the tractor that has a clutch that can be used to feather the pto in, just won't be a deal breaker.

The Massey's have an electric over hydraulic clutch for the PTO also, but their fancier tractorss have a "modulation" button so you can control the flow of the hydraulic oil to the PTO clutch plates for a smooth start with high inertia devices like a rotary cutter.. the Kioti works fine, it is just I could do it a little smoother by feathering a clutch. But it is not bad.

James K0UA
 
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k0ua said:
The Massey's have an electric over hydraulic clutch for the PTO also, but their fancier tractorss have a "modulation" button so you can control the flow of the hydraulic oil to the PTO clutch plates for a smooth start with high inertia devices like a rotary cutter.. the Kioti works fine, it is just I could do it a little smoother by feathering a clutch. But it is not bad.

James K0UA

Haven't looked at Masseys what models have that feature in the 50 hp range. Just read on the Mahindra forum of a 3035 breaking the pto shear pin when engaging a rotarymower. My main concern would be if hard on the tractor pto system if it is that abrupt. Two of the tractors I am looking at now have the electric engagement
 
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Haven't looked at Masseys what models have that feature in the 50 hp range. Just read on the Mahindra forum of a 3035 breaking the pto shear pin when engaging a rotarymower. My main concern would be if hard on the tractor pto system if it is that abrupt. Two of the tractors I am looking at now have the electric engagement


All I can say is no broken shear pins here.. it is abrupt, but it is not like a big bang.

James K0UA
 

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