Tailwheel vs impact gun

[Soundguy]

not specifically that brand.. but the style in general. at work we had always rant he metal ones ( housing i know )... and last 2ys the mechanincs were buying the composite ones.... we are all vack to metal now. too many broke housings.. i'm sure half of that is from abuse / dropping...

 

[LD1]

too many broke housings.. i'm sure half of that is from abuse / dropping...

I am sure that is probabally more like 90% from abuse (dropping).

Would you just "drop" any other $300 power tool?? Electric grinders? Drills? Saws??

 

[crazyal]

I have an Aircat. They are pretty much equal to the IR when it comes to strength but not as expensive. It's cheaper than the IR but I think the Klutch brand guns are even cheaper. I've only seen them sold at Northern Tool so I was never sure if it's a Northern brand or just a brand that Northern sells. I have to disagree with those who say get a cheap 1" gun (or even a 3/4"). Size can matter. Just last week a mouse got under the timing belt cover on my Tundra and I had to remove the crank bolt. There was just enough room for my 1/2" gun, anything larger would have left me trying to use universals and extensions to find a way to get on it. I think the IR guns are great but when you are talking well over $200 for one that's kind of out of the occasional weekend warrior price range.

I think mine is the 1200 K (twin clutch). When I first got it I thought it felt weird. The usual hammering that the cheap guns do wasn't there, also it was very quiet. It just removed everything I tried. I have both a "top of the line" Craftsman given to me as a Christmas gift and a Dewalt electric wrench and neither comes close to the same amount of power. I ended up pluming in a larger quick disconnect so I could use a 1/2" air line for less restriction.

 

[Bird]

I am sure that is probabally more like 90% from abuse (dropping).

Would you just "drop" any other $300 power tool?? Electric grinders? Drills? Saws??

When my brother was a Matco Tool Distributor, one day he was in a big truck dealership and a mechanic was up high on a ladder working with his half inch impact. When he finished, he let the impact part of the way to floor, and holding onto the air hose, he swung it back and forth a couple of times before trying to swing and release it onto his workbench. He missed and his impact wrench fell onto the concrete. Another mechanic laughingly said to my brother, "I'll bet a tool man hates to see that kind of thing" and my brother said, "Oh no, I like to see that; I've got a brand new one on the truck I'd be glad to sell to him.":laughing:

 

[Soundguy]

I am sure that is probabally more like 90% from abuse (dropping).

uh.. no.. more like the 50% I said. I handle all the tool claims, purchase and removal from stock/inventory. I'm pretty picky about documentation, plus what I see going on in my own shop.

Would you just "drop" any other $300 power tool?? Electric grinders? Drills? Saws??

i don't try to drop ANY power tool. However I do know that I have seen air guns, especially, and sometimes grinders 'fall' ( get dropped' out of the innards of a piece of equipment, and hit the ground, shortly thereafter followed by a curse, and an employee climbing down out of the bowels of some big piece of yellow equipment or from the engine compartment of a big pete, to retrieve a tool.

I also have watched an air tool be lowered to the ground via hose, and then a mis judge and a drop to hit the ground.

ironically.. some of the most damaged area are the air inlets, and the buttons.. rarely the anvil area.. and then the housing and actual internal cyl/hammers..

 

[Soundguy]

I have to disagree with those who say get a cheap 1" gun (or even a 3/4"). Size can matter. Just last week a mouse got under the timing belt cover on my Tundra and I had to remove the crank bolt. There was just enough room for my 1/2" gun, anything larger would have left me trying to use universals and extensions to find a way to get on it. .

I'll go out on a limb here and assume you didn't bother to check the context of my post. IE.. if you had some large , non reoccuring jobs that required hp.. etc. my post #36 states this...

IE.. if you have a 2" bolt you need to take out 1 per year.. don't spend 500$ on an IR 1" gun.. get the 100$ hf one.. .. i'd rather have a 100$ tool set 11.9m out of the year than a 500$ tool.

a good small gun is a great addition to any tool kit... it's just on some jobs.. a 3/8 gun ain't gonna do me -any- good at all.

I've drained a 60g air tank trying to get a stuck 5/8 bolt out using a 3/8" gun.. when a 1/2" drive took it out faster.. and a 3/4" drive buzzed it out before I could let go of the trigger.


a 3/8 and probably the average 1/2" gun has proven useless on blade bolts/nuts on my hogs...

 

[Soundguy]

When my brother was a Matco Tool Distributor, one day he was in a big truck dealership and a mechanic was up high on a ladder working with his half inch impact. When he finished, he let the impact part of the way to floor, and holding onto the air hose, he swung it back and forth a couple of times before trying to swing and release it onto his workbench. He missed and his impact wrench fell onto the concrete. Another mechanic laughingly said to my brother, "I'll bet a tool man hates to see that kind of thing" and my brother said, "Oh no, I like to see that; I've got a brand new one on the truck I'd be glad to sell to him.":laughing:

yep.. that's the kind of stuff I see.. mostly accidental drops or misses..

 

[SPYDERLK]

Something that a lot of guys don't know about air tool ratings is the fact that the 90psi should be measured at the tool INLET. To check correctly, tee a gauge into the airline at the tool inlet then pull the trigger on the tool. It will amaze you how the 120-150 psi @ the tank falls far short of being 90 psi at the tool inlet with the tool running.

I've used Mac AW234 & AW434 impact wrenches all my adult life. I had to run my compressor @ 195 tank psi and use a 1/2 air hose to get the full 90 psi at the inlet. But I could break loose bolts that other guys couldn't dream of breaking.

Im not sure how big those guns are, but I suspect you used a fairly small tee and the hi velocity air past the gauge port lowered the reading.
.... Years ago I made a setup to test pressure drop at hi flow. I just dug it up and checked it out to refresh my memory. --- With a 50' 3/8" feeder hose having one QC it takes 150PSI to feed 92PSI to an open orifice 0.215 in diameter. Thats well over 50CFM. The actual ID of the hose is more like 7/16", but that may be normal for 3/8 hose AFAIK.:confused3:
larry

 

[OcalaPat]

I have always subscribed to the notion that you get what you pay for. I live by this when it comes to tools. Although retired now, when I'm hip deep in a D10 final drive, my tool had to work!!

Mac and Snap On are the only guns I used. Never had one fail me as long as I took care of it.

 

[Soundguy]

Im not sure how big those guns are, but I suspect you used a fairly small tee and the hi velocity air past the gauge port lowered the reading.
.... Years ago I made a setup to test pressure drop at hi flow. I just dug it up and checked it out to refresh my memory. --- With a 50' 3/8" feeder hose having one QC it takes 150PSI to feed 92PSI to an open orifice 0.215 in diameter. Thats well over 50CFM. The actual ID of the hose is more like 7/16", but that may be normal for 3/8 hose AFAIK.:confused3:
larry

which is why I like 1/2" hose on an air gun...