Tig

[Jesse masterson]

Any opinions out there on the Eastwood ac dc tig 200, I have nothing but miller thus far and a hypertherm plasma, but 859$ for a ac dc tig is a good buy and it's a American company with American engineering. Anybody know facts about these welders from experience not opinion.

 

[Ed of all trades]

I hope someone does, because I want to know too.

 

[Shield Arc]

Is this the machine you're talking about?

TIG Welder - Eastwood AC/DC TIG Welder | TIG Welding | TIG Welders

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

It's a Chinese Tig, off the shelf product from a chinese manufacturer. They have simply bought the product and brought it over. There are other companies with the same TIG, in the US.

 

[Shield Arc]

Mark does that machine have anywhere near the control over the puddle has my Dynasty has?
Do you offer a machine with adjustable AC frequency? Anymore that is about all I adjust on my Dynasty. I leave the AC balance at about 60. When I want a lot of penetration while welding aluminum I adjust the pulse to 200 PPS, 80% peak, and 85% background. But for general aluminum work I just play with the AC frequency.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

No, not from my understanding. It is fixed....I would guess at 60hz...which is a shame, because it is a waste of an inverter which is capable of doing about anything imaginable with the arc for little added expense. The adjustable freq really does help stabilize and focus the arc. But if you come from a transformer background, you'd probably be still impressed. The other issue is that these are mosfet machines. While I think they are well designed, the mosfets don't have the reputation. There is a reason that most of the Majors have gone with IGBT, and we have as well. I think ESAB still uses some mosfets in their inverter plasma cutters...maybe their tigs... Not sure about TA.

All of our AC/DC machines have frequency control from 20-200 on our Digital and up to 250 Hz on analog. We also have adjustable balance on AC, some ranging from 30-70% up to 10-90% of AC +.

 

[Shield Arc]

OK, now you're confusing me! First you say no, not to your understanding, it is fixed at 60hz. Which that is the same as my old Miller Gold Star. Then you say all of our AC/DC machines have frequency control from 20-200.

I just love the AC frequency control on the Dynasty, oh he!! I just love my Dynasty! It almost made a Tig weldor out of me.

 

[Jesse masterson]

Mark I have also considered the everlast, I truly hate buying Chinese. I understand many of the other major companies use Chinese components, give me as much info as you can is miller truly American made or just American assembled. Try to sell me bro.

 

[Shield Arc]

Jesse do you plan on doing a lot of aluminum work? If you're planing on doing just stainless and mild steel any Tig welder will do that. But if doing a lot of aluminum, I suggest saving up to get a machine that at least has adjustable AC frequency, and pulse is also nice for thin material. Pulse is really nice for thin stainless steel too!

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

OK, now you're confusing me! First you say no, not to your understanding, it is fixed at 60hz. Which that is the same as my old Miller Gold Star. Then you say all of our AC/DC machines have frequency control from 20-200.

I just love the AC frequency control on the Dynasty, oh he!! I just love my Dynasty! It almost made a Tig weldor out of me.

I was referring to the Eastwood/"other" brand unit with the "fixed" remark. Our units do adjust AC frequency, throughout a quite wide range.

 

[Shield Arc]

I was referring to the Eastwood/"other" brand unit with the "fixed" remark. Our units do adjust AC frequency, throughout a quite wide range.

OK Mark, I get you now! Thanks!

There you go Jesse, check out the Everlast line.:thumbsup:

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Mark I have also considered the everlast, I truly hate buying Chinese. I understand many of the other major companies use Chinese components, give me as much info as you can is miller truly American made or just American assembled. Try to sell me bro.

Jesse, Almost all major electronic components regardless of manufacturer are made overseas, namely in China, and a few other Asian countries for any welder. Sub assemblies are as well for many companies. The Millers are no different, though they are final assembled here, and presumably designed here. But even "designed" here has room for a interpretation as the actual electronics are designed over seas...Say a resistor, or a transformer on a board. These components are evaluated here in the US for desired "specs" then they are put together by designers here to create the final product.

We use many well known American companies products in our units, such as IR, IXSYS, Intersis, Texas Instruments etc. But they are of course finally built overseas. We use other "name" brand components that are well known with ties to the US such as Infineon(Siemens), Fairchild, Panasonic, Sharp etc.

No doubt, as usual, we will have someone drop by who will try to blast us for even saying that other companies based in the US have non US components in them, and saying we have a lot of nerve comparing ourselves to them.

 

[Shield Arc]

Mark it is a known fact Lincoln has some of their machines built overseas. You can tell by the first letter in the serial number of the machine. My V350-Pro's serial number starts with a "C", um, must be Cleveland, or may be that stands for Copenhagen?:laughing:

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

All their inverters, last count I had, were made in Italy, of almost wholly Chinese components.(and in their overseas markets, many of their inverters and welders are made in China).

 

[Jesse masterson]

Thanks mark, for the info I'm really interested in a ac dc machine proBley a 200 or 250 , do they make a pulse in 200. Also what's the spec sheet on thickness of aluminum for each.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Jesse, Yes we have pulse in 200 amps.

We have both analog and digital models.
Here's a link to both with the specs. Click on the model to see details.
Tig Welder,AC DC Tig Welders, AC DC Welding Equipments
Tig Welder,AC DC Tig Welders, AC DC Welding Equipments

 

[Shield Arc]

Mark have you had the opportunity to run any of those Tig machines? I was wondering if any or all of them have as nice an arc in SMAW as my PowerArc 200? My Dynasty is a great GTAW machine, but it plain sucks as a SMAW machine. Reminds me of the same arc as the Miller Big 40 machines.:thumbdown:

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Mark have you had the opportunity to run any of those Tig machines? I was wondering if any or all of them have as nice an arc in SMAW as my PowerArc 200? My Dynasty is a great GTAW machine, but it plain sucks as a SMAW machine. Reminds me of the same arc as the Miller Big 40 machines.:thumbdown:

7018's are as smooth as the PA 200's. The adjustable arc force makes it nice. And we have worked on the 6010 capability somewhat. It's not perfect, but it will run 6011 like nobody's business.

 

[BlacknTan]

In spite of the fact that the behavior goes on regularly here, I'm very suspect of anyone that states that a ChiCom welder is as good as a Miller, and that because an American machine may use some Chinese components, it is no more than a ChiCom machine in a blue suit. It just taint so!

 

[Shield Arc]

In spite of the fact that the behavior goes on regularly here, I'm very suspect of anyone that states that a ChiCom welder is as good as a Miller, and that because an American machine may use some Chinese components, it is no more than a ChiCom machine in a blue suit. It just taint so!

Can you back that statement up? I don't mean with what you've read or heard! But with an actual side by side comparison!
My only hands on experience is with Everlast's PowerArc 200. Very disappointing to me that a $300.00 "ChiCom" welder can out weld a $6,000.00 Miller Dynasty on SMAW! Maybe Miller needs to hire some of Everlast's engineers / designers.:laughing: