Smart Meters

   / Smart Meters #62  
Out West... a lot of power comes from Hydro and the utilities efficiently manage this by throttling back production or even pumping water back into the dam at slack periods.

For decades PG&E said they needed more dams to handle peek loads which are most often on the hottest days... and now, solar is doing just that... it peaks exactly when A/C use is highest.

There are 4 installs on my street... one 100% private and the other 3 are a type of lease.

The one with the biggest array also had a sophisticated grow operation that no one knew about until he went into foreclosure and had a weekend yard sale.
 
   / Smart Meters #63  
Im curious with the welder did you actually see much of an increase that month? I have watched mine several years each time I do a project that takes alot of rods.(sometimes maybe 10 lbs worth) And have yet to see much of a spike in my bill.Even If there is,Its one of the most valuable cost savings 'appliance' a home can have. And the local utily here did a survey of usage and left a report that said I could save xxx a year and they recommended that I get rid of the welder.I can Imagine how much id spend farming it out..lol
Now i know these 30 minutes showers the two kids have twice a day add up. hmmm maybe they need to go lol lol



No, I did not notice any difference in the monthly bill. Of course I'm not welding at 225A either!!!

I did put a clamp on amp meter on one of the power lines while welding at ~90-100A and the draw wasn't very much. I can't really remember the number though.


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   / Smart Meters #64  
Im curious with the welder did you actually see much of an increase that month? I have watched mine several years each time I do a project that takes alot of rods.(sometimes maybe 10 lbs worth) And have yet to see much of a spike in my bill.Even If there is,Its one of the most valuable cost savings 'appliance' a home can have. And the local utily here did a survey of usage and left a report that said I could save xxx a year and they recommended that I get rid of the welder.I can Imagine how much id spend farming it out..lol
Now i know these 30 minutes showers the two kids have twice a day add up. hmmm maybe they need to go lol lol


No, I did not notice any difference.Of course I'm not weldeing at 225A either!!!

I did put a clamp on anp meter on one of the power lines while welding at ~90-100A and the draw wasn't very much. I can't really remember the nuber though.


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   / Smart Meters #65  
around here smart meters are for time of day billing, and automated meter reading. There has been lots of resistance, my utility has not implemented yet. I did get an energy comparison today in the mail from my electric company, explaining that I use x% less than my neighbors (100 people near me), but I use y% more than my efficient neighbors (lowest 25% of my 100 neighbors. This was all to tell me how I should be conserving energy. The problem with this is: My last bill was an estimate, so the results are totally meaningless, and it only looks at KWH, with no reference to house size, number of people in the house, etc.. I was pissed they wasted so much money sending out worthless information, or still worse, that they might have got a gov't grant of some sort to put out this worthless information.
 
   / Smart Meters #66  
We got new smart meter about a month ago. I asked the guy from the utility what is the motivation behind that. He said that DOE is collecting data about energy usage patterns for some research and gave them a subsidy to install the meters. The old smart meters used to send the usage every 28 days. The new smart meters can send it every few minutes if programmed that way. The meter sends the data over power line. When fully implemented we would be able to see our power usage in real time on internet. They might also sell displays that you can place in your home showing power usage, instantaneous power, rate etc.

Our daughter lives in Europe. They have tiered electric rate. All larger appliances such as washing machine, dryer, dishwasher etc have programmable timer to start working when the rate is low (in ex. at night).
 
   / Smart Meters #67  
Our daughter lives in Europe. They have tiered electric rate. All larger appliances such as washing machine, dryer, dishwasher etc have programmable timer to start working when the rate is low (in ex. at night).

Lots of people had two meters over there... one was night electricity and the other daytime... the water heaters and things were on the night meter which was significantly less.
 
   / Smart Meters #68  
around here smart meters are for time of day billing, and automated meter reading. There has been lots of resistance, my utility has not implemented yet. I did get an energy comparison today in the mail from my electric company, explaining that I use x% less than my neighbors (100 people near me), but I use y% more than my efficient neighbors (lowest 25% of my 100 neighbors. This was all to tell me how I should be conserving energy. The problem with this is: My last bill was an estimate, so the results are totally meaningless, and it only looks at KWH, with no reference to house size, number of people in the house, etc.. I was pissed they wasted so much money sending out worthless information, or still worse, that they might have got a gov't grant of some sort to put out this worthless information.
BINGO BINGO
Yep I know in the future (near) that they will start to control the usage at certain times.I dont see how they could shut off individual appliances. but can see where they could say that the rate is higher for xxx time to xxx time and then know if you used it during that time. And bill accordingly.
 
   / Smart Meters #69  
BINGO BINGO
Yep I know in the future (near) that they will start to control the usage at certain times.I dont see how they could shut off individual appliances. but can see where they could say that the rate is higher for xxx time to xxx time and then know if you used it during that time. And bill accordingly.

You don't see it now but in the future, major appliances will have modules in them so they can communicate/be controlled by smart meters.
 
   / Smart Meters #70  
Well yesterday we had a huge pine tree take down the wires, sparks and flames,road blocked. Called thw power company and they said I had power. LOL So much for the smart meter lol
 

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