Irrigation economics and logistics

   / Irrigation economics and logistics #21  
I searched for "Clear Water Pump" on Amazon and it was one of the first few results. The Ironton pump claims that it will pull 2.75 amps which is a ~330 watts.
The formula for amps to watts is Volts*Amps=Watts and one horsepower is about 746 watts (see Formula for converting HP to AMPs or Visa Versa for more info)

Aaron Z
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #22  
Yeah I wouldn't think so.

Might want to think about building a pump system as close to what you think you would need if you build a house there. Actual irrigation pump, pump shed etc. Small pump like that wouldn't handle lawn irrigation etc.

For security and future flexibility I agree build a pump house, or dig and install a concrete 3' tile and cover to house and hide tank and controls in the future.

For short term here's one that you can drop in the pond with a 4' section perforated pipe with holes and screening around it. Float a gallon container to keep it upright off the bottom. Pump, Deep Well Submersible Pump, 1/2hp, 115vac/60hz/1ph, 20 Gpm, Midintake, S.s. Shell C.i Intake - Amazon.com

YOu could use a 1/2 HP jet pump above ground too..

This along with a small generator (the 1/2HP 115VAC is 6.5 amps, so you should have minimim 12 amps for starting or 2000W generator), but for more flexible use a 4000W is better and would total $600 or so all done.

Carl
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #23  
I gotta second the idea of a cheapo gas powered semi-trash pump or transfer pump.

We Irrigate one of our Blueberry fields doing something similar during droughts, and dry spells.

Trickle irrigation works real well, IF you can keep up, however once you are behind, and net loss is greater than delivery, you are screwed without a backup method to get back even or ahead.

Trees and bushes both show stress late, and need a constant state of availability or will be stressed without it showing untill much later.
Last summer, the Trees and bushes were showing hard stress in July, but were hurting back in May. Ground moisture levels were just too low, too early.

The advantage of the trash pump to fill a large reservoir, that feeds drip lines, is you can maintain a constant state, and if you get behind, simply flood to make up, and then go back to trickle alone. If you wish to skip the expense, in favor of waiting to install a dedicated drip system from the well later, simply flooding 1-2 times a week works nicely. Just gotta keep up with it.

Another option....PTO irrigation pump.
Keep your eyeballs peeled for a used high volume PTO pump like Hale sells.
Some of the older ones,Goreman Rupp etc., can be had for 3-4 bills, parts for rebuilds are still available, and they cannot be killed.
They move water, fast, and LOTS of it.

Good luck to ya!!
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #24  
Yeah I have a couple of lawns near my shop that respond much better to the occasional flood versus daily sprinklers. I use my gas pump for that, a lot of water quickly to saturate an area, move hose, repeat. I also use my gas pump to draw my pond down for maintenance etc. so I think it is handy to have a gas pump on hand. Sounds like the OP's two different areas might be a ways apart though so now sure how feasible it is to occasionally flood. Not sure how big his ponds are or how much make-up water they have coming in either.
 
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Yeah I have a couple of lawns near my shop that respond much better to the occasional flood versus daily sprinklers. I use my gas pump for that, a lot of water quickly to saturate an area, move hose, repeat. I also use my gas pump to draw my pond down for maintenance etc. so I think it is handy to have a gas pump on hand. Sounds like the OP's two different areas might be a ways apart though so now sure how feasible it is to occasionally flood. Not sure how big his ponds are or how much make-up water they have coming in either.
The pond nearest the orchard in question is about 160 feet away and is about 150 feet square. Probably only 4 feet deep with silting. Level stayed steady with last years drought.
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #26  
The pond nearest the orchard in question is about 160 feet away and is about 150 feet square. Probably only 4 feet deep with silting. Level stayed steady with last years drought.

Does water through it or is it a spring or? That works out to about 4500 gallons, not huge but not bad either.
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #28  
Gocards,


I had a similar situation with our acreage where I wanted to plant a tree nursery a couple of years before building our house. I ended up using solar power to pump from our lake on a drip system. It worked great!! I also do this now for my wife's garden. I have a thread on Tractorbynet that I posted a few years back. I'll try to find it and send you a link.

Thomas
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics #29  
I had a similar situation with our acreage where I wanted to plant a tree nursery a couple of years before building our house. I ended up using solar power to pump from our lake on a drip system. It worked great!! I also do this now for my wife's garden. I have a thread on Tractorbynet that I posted a few years back. I'll try to find it and send you a link.
This thread? http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/160816-solar-powered-watering-system-tree.html

Aaron Z
 
   / Irrigation economics and logistics
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Interesting setup. Thanks for sharing.
 

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