Grapple Quick Attach and Grapple for Industrial Tractor\Loader??

[Xfaxman]

I wonder how it will hold up to rough digging and grubbing with my heavy machine? It would be a shame to bend up a new grapple! I'll look into it some more and thanks for the info. I liked how you said it weighed 1200lbs but then i noticed that must have been a mistake, and it weighs in at 800lbs.

No mistake, the Monster weighs 1200 pounds, the smaller opening Standard is 800 pounds.

My V417 weighs almost 11,000, I will have to measure the curl force, lift force over 5K, Boom breakout force 6700 pounds, drawbar pull 7K. I have stressed the Monster Grapple to the max, and have not bent it. Very few companies make their grapple tines with 1/2" thick steel.

What will be the main use for your grapple?

 

[Midniteoyl]

A heavy load would be the the maximum curl force of your curl cylinders, plus the lift force of the loader, plus the drawbar pull rating of your tractor. Think trying to remove a stump while curling, lifting and spinning your wheels.

I have bent those 1/4" top plates on two different fork frames, with just the curl force with the V417.

If you are going to modify to pin on, they might work.

Hmm.. I see what you mean.. Seems there are a lot of grapples with those same plates and no bracing.

However, I am in 'beach sand' land and can push over a 4" tree with just my Simplicity 7016 . Kinda why I need the grapple now - a TON of fallen trees..

 

[Xfaxman]

This is what happens to a 1/4 inch thick attachment plate that is made with no bracing, when there is too much lifting force on it.

I put a straight edge on it, so you can see the streched metal


This is the attachment area for the Monster Grapple. It is made with 1/2 inch thick steel.


And braced with a 5/8 inch thick plate. It is not likely to bend from a heavy load.

 

[Midniteoyl]

This is what happens to a 1/4 inch thick attachment plate that is made with no bracing, when there is too much lifting force on it.

Thanks :thumbsup: I see the problem..

Welding on brackets for pins would prolly eliminate this issue.. maybe with a doubling plate welded on first..?

I do believe the OP is not set on a certain method of attachment, only thinking about a QA adaptor, so prolly doesnt matter anyway, but its always good to have all the info you can to make a good decision. He might very well need a substantially heavier grapple where he lives. I know I am now gonna be looking more closely and maybe go get some scrap steel

 

[Midniteoyl]

BTW - is that one of yours that got bent?

 

[Xfaxman]

BTW - is that one of yours that got bent?

Yep, light duty pallet fork frame. Had used it on the V417 to load 2 3/8 tubing on a friend's trailer, hauled to his place to unload, forks are 42 inches long, put them too far under, when I curled up, it raised about 4 inches, bent and fell down on to the trailer.

Here is the other one. 1/4 inch SSQA plate, 3/8 x 2 inch bar across the top. Was using it on the V417, trying to pop a dead tree out of the ground, when it broke.



I knew it needed bracing added, just never got a roundtuit, now I need a fixittuit! :laughing:


I always wanted to be a procrastinator, I just never got a round to it.

 

[Xfaxman]

I wonder how it will hold up to rough digging and grubbing with my heavy machine? It would be a shame to bend up a new grapple! I'll look into it some more and thanks for the info. I liked how you said it weighed 1200lbs .....................................

I could not find any documentation on the weight of the Monster Grapple, I was going by what the eBay seller told me.

Got out the crane scales.


Pretty close?

 

[Furu]

Very few companies make their grapple tines with 1/2" thick steel.

I would agree to this statement because so many grapples are made very flimsy.
Both Anbo GRSH and especially the Borgford BoDozer are have tines that are more than 1/2" thick.

 

[wjb-49]

I could not find any documentation on the weight of the Monster Grapple, I was going by what the eBay seller told me.

If this the same "Monster Grapple" manufactured by Loflin Fabrication, its weight is not posted in the Grapple Specs chart on their web site. I have emailed them several times regarding their Standard Root Grapple and Mike Atwell has always promptly replied.

On a different subject, is anyone familiar with North American Implements and United Fabrication (both also located in Denton, NC)? They both offer "heavy duty" grapples, with 1/2" steel tines, that appear to have good features. I have communicated with United Fabrication regarding a skid steer conversion unit, but have not discussed their grapple with them.

The search continues!

 

[Xfaxman]

If this the same "Monster Grapple" manufactured by Loflin Fabrication, its weight is not posted in the Grapple Specs chart on their web site. I have emailed them several times regarding their Standard Root Grapple and Mike Atwell has always promptly replied.

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The search continues!

Yep, same one. It was recommended to me by the local Bobcat dealer, when I told him I was looking for a grapple with a large opening.

Well I now know mine weighs almost 1200 pounds, and is very well built! :thumbsup: