Ford says no to Diesel F-150

[Monster5601]

I really have high hopes for the next F150 coming in '14. I think we will see some really impressive fuel economy numbers from Ford next year. The competition will be great for everyone!

Here is the RAM's EPA posted MPG numbers for 2014.

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[Diamondpilot]

Yeah, I know it was slated for the 1500. I just think it's overkill for a half-ton truck. Heck, the 1st Duramax had what, 300/500? I know the first 6.0 from Ford had 300/550!

The 6.0 was actually 325 HP and 570 FT TQ when introduced in 2003.5

Chris

 

[fordmantpw]

The 6.0 was actually 325 HP and 570 FT TQ when introduced in 2003.5

Chris

You were right-on on HP, close on torque. 325/560 when first released. The '05 saw the bump to 570 ft-lbs. I remember now that the numbers were first 550 ft-lbs, but before the '03 hit the lots, Ford upped the numbers to 560 to jump ahead of GM, which I think was at 555..

6.0L Power Stroke Specs

At any rate, 300/520 would be a great "entry level" diesel in a 3/4 ton truck and is way more than necessary in a half ton I think.

 

[JESSE1]

The 7.3 in my '99 F-350 SuperDuty that I got in January '98 had 235hp and 500 torque. Couldn't believe the power that truck had. The turbo in that engine could really sing when you were pulling hard.

 

[dodge man]

I'm not positive, but I think the first Cummins in the Dodge trucks (1988?) was rated at 165 hp. I think that was there ratings clear up until the mid or late 1990's. These trucks would also haul down over 20 mpg easy.

 

[WilliamBos]

I'm not positive, but I think the first Cummins in the Dodge trucks (1988?) was rated at 165 hp. I think that was there ratings clear up until the mid or late 1990's. These trucks would also haul down over 20 mpg easy.

And 400 torque, debuted in the fall of 1988 as a 1989.

 

[Midniteoyl]

I'm not positive, but I think the first Cummins in the Dodge trucks (1988?) was rated at 165 hp. I think that was there ratings clear up until the mid or late 1990's. These trucks would also haul down over 20 mpg easy.

Ya, my neighbor got close to 25mpg highway on his..

 

[dodge man]

Those early trucks had a 727 torqueflite with no overdrive. If you ever have looked under the hood of an early 12 valve Cummins, you could climb in next the engine and have enough room to sleep in there. A lot of room and very simple and easy to work on. If Dodge came out with a 165hp diesel today, half ton or heavy duty, they would get laughed at.

 

[Midniteoyl]

There was a 5 speed O/D manual I do believe..

 

[Midniteoyl]

The Dodge Cummins was standard with a Getrag 5-speed O/D manual transmission, the 3-speed automatic was optional.

PickupTruck.Com - History - Segment Twelve: 1989 to 1993 Diesel Pickups

 

[busy dad]

This bigger faster attitude , could be toned down. The early 7.3 or 6.2 and the 5.9 were plenty to get things moved around..As we go faster and heavier , many don't think about the braking needed to stop.. The big tow weights are impressive , yet so many I see have no mirrors to see around their trailers , and often the trailer out weighs the tow vehicle so greatly . We are back to the tail wagging the dog.

 

[TomSeller]

I'm not positive, but I think the first Cummins in the Dodge trucks (1988?) was rated at 165 hp. I think that was there ratings clear up until the mid or late 1990's. These trucks would also haul down over 20 mpg easy.

I always thought that series of Dodge pickups looked great in the 4x4 models. I know Dodge was getting a lot of criticism and drastically changed the style in 1994, which some say saved the pickup line for Dodge. I thought the 1994 model was great, but I still like the 1988 styling a lot. Not so much in the 2 wheel drive models, but the 4 wheel drives looked tough. And those original Cummins engines were what I would buy today if I could.

 

[WilliamBos]

I always thought that series of Dodge pickups looked great in the 4x4 models. I know Dodge was getting a lot of criticism and drastically changed the style in 1994, which some say saved the pickup line for Dodge. I thought the 1994 model was great, but I still like the 1988 styling a lot. Not so much in the 2 wheel drive models, but the 4 wheel drives looked tough. And those original Cummins engines were what I would buy today if I could.

I agree..I loved the regular cab 4wd rams, the 1991-93 were my favourites.

 

[wmonroe]

I agree..I loved the regular cab 4wd rams, the 1991-93 were my favourites.

I agree also, the first gen 4x4's where tough looking trucks.

 

[Graywolf907]

I would like to see Ford rework the old 2.3L ( 5 main bearings ) that was used in the Pinto, Mustang, Mustang II, Ranger into a diesel and use it not only in the F-150 but also in some of the smaller cars. I really believe they could sweep the market.

 

[DT86]

I agree also, the first gen 4x4's where tough looking trucks.

Guys, stop it!! I just sold my '92 250 single cab w/ Cummins, 5 speed and 4x4. It hadn't run in a while but I miss it already.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Still have my '86 :thumbsup:

 

[Scooby074]

Guys, stop it!! I just sold my '92 250 single cab w/ Cummins, 5 speed and 4x4. It hadn't run in a while but I miss it already.

Ouch. I dont think I could sell one that was still serviceable

Thats a pretty desirable vehicle. There are basically none of them on the road up here (there are a few, but you get what I mean). Most of them have turned to dust.

 

[DT86]

Ouch. I dont think I could sell one that was still serviceable
.

Honestly the truck wasn't worth saving, good drivetrain and that's it. Minor engine problems that were easily fixable but I was so tired of it I wouldn't spend another dime on it. He has sunk a ton of money on it in the past two weeks and plans on having it on the road tomorrow.

 

[WilliamBos]

Guys, stop it!! I just sold my '92 250 single cab w/ Cummins, 5 speed and 4x4. It hadn't run in a while but I miss it already.

If you have pics, please share!!

I am still kicking my butt for not buying a 93 W250 LE off the lot in the spring of 1994.