Help! L3200 length vs trailer length

[Hammer Head]

I have a L3200 on order with B77 hoe and 524 loader. Dealer did not have anything for me to measure!
I would like to know if it will fit on a 16' lift gate trailer? I would back the tractor onto the trailer and put the loader out over the lift gate. I would assume the lower piviot point of the hoe would stop at the front 16" +- high perimeter rail of the trailer when backing on and not hang over, just the hoe.
Could anyone get me some measurements?
Thanks in advance.

 

[nybirdman]

I don't believe that will fit on a 16ft.trailer(single axel?)My L3130 with loader and back-blade was 22ft. long...with a hoe on you will be at least that long.We haul a B7800/hoe on a 22ft.,10,000lb. rig.

 

[AStanton]

No way will that fit. I use a 16-ft trailer for my BX-25 and that's a nice fit. If I understand you right, I would stay away from those ramp gates for that size machine. Get the twin ramps that you can slide side to side. They are more heavy duty. In the pic, here's my neighbor's 18-ft trailer which he let me use one time before I had my own. He hauls his L-35 back hoe with it with no problem.

 

[Hammer Head]

The trailer is dual axel 6500GVW. I would need to know from the grill guard to the base pivot point of the hoe.
the hoe arm would hang out over the tong of the trailer and the loader would be raised up and bucket rolled down over the outside of the up folded ramp.

 

[AStanton]

I'm no authority, but I think the DMV would have a field day citing you if you drove by with a load distributed like that.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I have lost count of how many people I have seen running around with the loader in the air to make it fit on a trailer. It is by law that every attachment must be secured to the trailer. Draping it over the gate is NOT securing it. Leaving the hoe hang over the tongue is not a problem as long as it is also lowered to the trailer and secured. I would also suggest a heavier gvw trailer. It all depends on your placement on the trailer, and the actual ratings on the trailer. I think my l3400 weighs somewhere around 4k?? with the loader and loaded rear tires for reference.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

Yeah, you're S@#$ out of luck. Time for a bigger trailer. At least a 20' 10K with ramps and not the lift gates..

Good luck...

 

[Hammer Head]

Good point!! I never thought about that. I know I need to get a trailer and the dealer is of no help with dimensions of the tractor and attachments.
I would like to minimize the length of the trailer, hoe could pivot to the side and rest on the rail and bucket could be rolled and rest on the front rail. This would be if the tractor is pulled on facing forward.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

I moved a friends tractor... Not sure of the model but its a 30HP . This is on a 16 foot deck. (14 +2 beavertail) You might squeeze by with an 18' if you put the bucket on the forward rail...

Something to keep in mind... Its unlikely binder chains will fail, but if they do , or the binder fails and you stop short, having the bucket pinned down behind the rail will keep the tractor from F'ing up your truck . Most forces are generated when braking.

 

[Hammer Head]

Ok,
I went to the local Car-Mate dealer. He has a 18' (15'+3') beavertail car hauler rated at #7000 GVWR he sait I could haul up to #5050 on the trailer. My best guess is the tractor, hoe and loader would weigh 4400-4500 lbs. I might haul a plate compactor and upright tamper at the same time. $3166.00 OTD
What do you think?

 

[mikesee]

Beside the length of the trailer, carefully consider the weight rating. Do not guess about how much your tractor will weight. Find out for sure how much the loader and backhoe weigh add in the weight of the compactor and tamper then multiply by at least 110%. I think you would be best suited with a 10k trailer. If you are towing this equipment around for work and get inspected/weighed by the DOT and are 1 pound over the trailer's tire weight rating you will be placed out of service.

 

[David_Kb7uns]

Ok,
I went to the local Car-Mate dealer. He has a 18' (15'+3') beavertail car hauler rated at #7000 GVWR he sait I could haul up to #5050 on the trailer. My best guess is the tractor, hoe and loader would weigh 4400-4500 lbs. I might haul a plate compactor and upright tamper at the same time. $3166.00 OTD
What do you think?

No way

David Kb7uns

 

[nspec]

A 10k gvw is pretty much a 'standard'. You don't want to tow right on the edge of the weight ratings. You need a little buffer. I'm in the most expensive part of the country and an 18' 10k gvw trailer brand new is $4000. Seen plenty of really nice used ones in the $2500-$3000 range. You can get one rated for 8k gvw but it really doesnt save you any money.

You'll be much better off in the long run if you buy the right fit instead of one that just barely gets buy. It'll not only be safer, but way easier for you. The bigger trailer will no doubt last much longer, be better built and will handle the load much better.

 

[newbury]

One big advantage to a shorter trailer is if you have limited maneuvering room. The street in front of my Virginia residence is a cul-de-sac and so narrow that the trailer spans the entire street when crosswise. With a car almost always parked on the side opposite my driveway I can't maneuver my F350 and trailer to back the trailer into my driveway. The people down at the end of the cul-de-sac have full sized Expeditions and Maxi-vans parked nose to the curb. I have to do a 3 point turn in our civic. IF I get all of them to clear out their vehicles I can turn the trailer. I always use my B7610. Drop the trailer in front and easily back it in. THe difference between an 8' tow vehicle and a 20' makes it all happen.

 

[Bluegill2]

Around here the dealers sell the L3200 & 3800 with 16' trailers in package deals. I bought a 7K dual axle 16 footer and my L3800w/loader fits fine, but I have no hoe. I also have no need to haul my tractors on the road, so the trailer is used for other stuff...

 

[Bluegill2]

18 foot 10k car haul would be fine and they go for $3k here.

 

[ritschner]

I use a 16ft trailer to tow a L2800. With the loader and box blade it is a perfect fit, but with the mower the loader must come off or be set on the tongue to get the mower under the 4ft overhang limit. Even then I have to secure the pivot wheel forward and flag it. Having said that, I personally would not get anything under 20ft. Only the very limited amount that I move the tractor with the mower and having a 24ft enclosed car hauler keeps me from trading the trailer I have.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

Around here the dealers sell the L3200 & 3800 with 16' trailers in package deals. I bought a 7K dual axle 16 footer and my L3800w/loader fits fine, but I have no hoe. I also have no need to haul my tractors on the road, so the trailer is used for other stuff...

The hoe obviously makes a big difference in length and weight distribution...

Just remember the dealer isn't hauling it. You are.

Last year a member had a dealer (large well known dealer) sell a trailer grossly under rated for his tractor, in a package deal, (he was new and didn't know better) ... He had to fight with them and threaten legal action.... They eventually took back the under rated one and sell him an appropriate rated trailer.

Just because its from a dealer, doesn't mean its always right!

 

[Hammer Head]

Thanks, you all have very valid points. I was also not thinking about the additional weight of loaded tires. The dealer can order a #9900 18' or 20' treated deck car hauler for me (3 Wks.), I guess it is better to wait and get the best fit. I still would like to not to go over 18' due to tight work sites and narrow city streets. Do you think with 18' I will get good weight distribution? Having the tractor backed on might be best?
With the car hauler having no side rails (only front) it would also work better for side loading building materials.

 

[Bluegill2]

The hoe obviously makes a big difference in length and weight distribution...

Just remember the dealer isn't hauling it. You are.

Last year a member had a dealer (large well known dealer) sell a trailer grossly under rated for his tractor, in a package deal, (he was new and didn't know better) ... He had to fight with them and threaten legal action.... They eventually took back the under rated one and sell him an appropriate rated trailer.

Just because its from a dealer, doesn't mean its always right!

3-4 large dealers around here are selling 16' trailers with this size rig, but no hoe. Yes, the hoe will make a difference. Yes 16 foot is marginal...

If I had to haul mine much with the hog on it, I'd want 18 or 20 foot. If I ever need to haul mine back to the dealer, I'll use the 16' I have.