Mechanic say's this J.D. is a factory "FLAW"

[duke7595]

Mechanic replaced a clutch/pressure plate on recently purchased 1020 John Deere, the clutch is single stage, when a bush hog is attached and you attempt to engage
the grinding begins which will not allow engagement of the bush hog.
The only way is to pre-engage, and than start the tractor. The mechanic says this was a flaw with this type of single stage clutch setup and this is why those who purchased
these single stage John Deere's got rid of them.

The tractor was purchased very cheap because the clutch was out and the repair was justified for this reason. Does this make sense to anyone or is this mechanic
blowing smoke because he did something wrong during the installation ?

 

[TnWV]

Does the tractor not have a PTO clutch? I'm not familiar with that tractor, but if it has a single stage clutch, there should be a separate clutch for the PTO. Pull the PTO clutch, engage the PTO , then release the PTO clutch to start the brush hog. That is how my grand father in laws AC 6140 and my Zetor work. Again, I am not familiar with your tractor, so hopefully someone that is will chime in.

 

[mulehead82]

im familiar with it id say get a real mechanic itl engage smoother than that

 

[duke7595]

im familiar with it id say get a real mechanic itl engage smoother than that

mulehaed82 you say you're familiar with this tractor, I wonder if you can give me some more details to work with , the mechanic has done work for me in the past
and seemed to know what he was doing this is why I would appreciate more details to work with.

 

[Leejohn]

If the clutch engages to the fly wheel on the engine, how in the world is anything turning after the clutch has been disengaged from the engine? Got to be something like 1 adjustment, 2 bad pressure plate, 3 wrong clutch plate, 4 flywheel bearing froze to trans shaft or bad, 5 don't thing throwout bearing would do that if it was bad.

 

[RickB]

Your "mechanic" is an idiot. The description of your tractor's clutch operation is one of a two stage clutch with an inoperative PTO stage.

 

[mulehead82]

Id be sure it has the correct john deere hygard fluid in it then id check the correct amount of free travel in the clutch adjustment and also the clutch must be made by john deere

 

[aczlan]

Your "mechanic" is an idiot. The description of your tractor's clutch operation is one of a two stage clutch with an inoperative PTO stage.

I agree. Single stage or 2 stage, you should not need to "pre-engage" your PTO with a properly working and properly adjusted clutch.

Aaron Z

 

[Tx Jim]

JD offered a transmission driven pto option but I've never seen a 1020 with that option.

 

[RickB]

JD offered a transmission driven pto option but I've never seen a 1020 with that option.

If it had a single stage clutch, it would either disengage so the PTO AND transmission shifters could be engaged without grinding, or the transmission shifter would have to be "pre-engaged" as well because the clutch is totally inoperative. My first comment stands.

 

[duke7595]

Is it possible that the wrong clutch/PB was installed ? and is this possible since the tractor does drive and shift ok.

I have to talk with this man shortly and let him know what I have learned so he can make this right.

 

[Tx Jim]

Is it possible that the wrong clutch/PB was installed ? and is this possible since the tractor does drive and shift ok.

I have to talk with this man shortly and let him know what I have learned so he can make this right.

Yes it's highly possible the clutch fingers are set at wrong height or pto clutch got warped on rejoining tractors halves.

 

[jd110]

You could have an independent pto option. That would be a single stage clutch for the foot clutch with a separate clutch for the pto. Do you have a lever between the two shift levers? If you have a lever like this, lifting up on the lever engages pto clutch and pushing it down disengages it.

 

[duke7595]

View attachment 342014You could have an independent pto option. That would be a single stage clutch for the foot clutch with a separate clutch for the pto. Do you have a lever between the two shift levers? If you have a lever like this, lifting up on the lever engages pto clutch and pushing it down disengages it.

No it does not have a independent PTO

 

[Turbys_1700]

The 1020 has a live 2 stage PTO clutch...
I would suspect that your clutch is stuck due to inactivity...
I have no idea how to free up your clutch without splitting the tractor in half...
I am sure that a competent tractor mechanic could possibly do that for you...
You need a different mechanic...

 

[Tx Jim]

The 1020 has a live 2 stage PTO clutch...

Turbys
For the record 1020 could have four(4) pto options
#1 no pto
#2 trans driven pto
#3 dual stage clutch referred to as continuous pto
#4 hyd ind referred to a live or independent.

Those were the options when I sold 1020's when they were new.

 

[Turbys_1700]

Thanks for the info Tx Jim...
The only ones I have ever seen were 2 stage...

 

[jd110]

Another possibility could be the clutch pedal position could be wrong. There is a 2 position adjustment on the pedal which needs to be in correct position depending on if it is a independent pto or two stage clutch. The pedal should be near vertical on two stage clutch and maybe at 45 degree angle on independent. remove bolt #6 from the side of the pedal and pull the pedal up until other hole aligns if it is incorrect hole.

 

[duke7595]

Mechanic replaced a clutch/pressure plate on recently purchased 1020 John Deere, the clutch is single stage, when a bush hog is attached and you attempt to engage
the grinding begins which will not allow engagement of the bush hog.
The only way is to pre-engage, and than start the tractor. The mechanic says this was a flaw with this type of single stage clutch setup and this is why those who purchased
these single stage John Deere's got rid of them.

The tractor was purchased very cheap because the clutch was out and the repair was justified for this reason. Does this make sense to anyone or is this mechanic
blowing smoke because he did something wrong during the installation ?

 

[Zebrafive]

Turbys
For the record 1020 could have four(4) pto options
#1 no pto
#2 trans driven pto
#3 dual stage clutch referred to as continuous pto
#4 hyd ind referred to a live or independent.

Those were the options when I sold 1020's when they were new.

Please explain how option #2 worked.
Did the PTO stop every time the clutch was pushed in?
Did you have engage the PTO lever on the side with the clutch pushed in?

If so, sounds like what he has (but never knew JD sold this set up)