Seriously...TPMS?

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Aaron Z

Thanks..Just wanted a real life experience from an owner.

 

[sld]

It is not the feds per se to be getting all bent out of shape about.
Do you really think YOUR legislators in Washington thought up black boxes etc all on their own?

Stop tilting at wind mills and turn your eyes to the real culprits in the fiasco called government today which in this one case happens to be the insurance industry.
Follow the money.

I don't see a problem with this. Why should the insurance pay huge settlements if some idiot drives with under inflated tires....or 100 mph...or without a seat belt and has a bad wreck. It's about time society started looking at personal accountability instead of stick it to the big bad corporation.

 

[rsallen]

Ha, that's a laugh. When was the last time any major industry in the US got it so called got it stuck to it?

I along with most thinking people that use the roads are happy with the modern development of the autos in our lives. They're safer, longer lasting, cheaper to operate and less troublesome than anything produced in the past (you know, the good old days).

Much of what is the complaint of the op'er has more do to with the manufacturer than any regs coming out of Washington.
Some manufacturers claim it and some don't but the laws litigated some time ago allowed the manufacturers to claim proprietary property of the information about the operation and repair information related to your car. So even as owner of said car, even you must pay for that information if the manufacturer decides to play it that way. Ergo some autos can be read out and reset from a dash display and others can't.

Personally I'd like to mandate blocking of all phone, texting and live gps mapping while the car is moving. There isn't a day go by that I don't have to take some kind of evasive action because someone isn't paying attention to driving.

 

[aczlan]

Much of what is the complaint of the op'er has more do to with the manufacturer than any regs coming out of Washington.
Some manufacturers claim it and some don't but the laws litigated some time ago allowed the manufacturers to claim proprietary property of the information about the operation and repair information related to your car. So even as owner of said car, even you must pay for that information if the manufacturer decides to play it that way. Ergo some autos can be read out and reset from a dash display and others can't.

I understand that there are propitiatory codes, but per the EPA ALL vehicles made after 1996 need to supply certain basic info via the OBD-II port. That I all that I am looking to have made available via the information center.

Personally I'd like to mandate blocking of all phone, texting and live gps mapping while the car is moving. There isn't a day go by that I don't have to take some kind of evasive action because someone isn't paying attention to driving.

By "Live GPS mapping" do you mean entering an address while driving?
IMO, it aint gonna happen as I've said it many times.
For it to be work it would have to do the following:
1. Block the driver from calling, etc
2. Allow the passengers (be they on a train, boat, car, truck, van, bus, etc) to use their devices as normal
There isn't anything available that will do both 1 and 2.
Also, what if my wife is driving and someone calls/texts to her phone which I am holding? I am then having a conversation, not her, so you will need to allow for that as well.

Aaron Z

 

[Soundguy]

By "Live GPS mapping" do you mean entering an address while driving?
IMO, it aint gonna happen as I've said it many times.
For it to be work it would have to do the following:
1. Block the driver from calling, etc
2. Allow the passengers (be they on a train, boat, car, truck, van, bus, etc) to use their devices as normal
There isn't anything available that will do both 1 and 2.
Also, what if my wife is driving and someone calls/texts to her phone which I am holding? I am then having a conversation, not her, so you will need to allow for that as well.

Aaron Z

i agree. no way to do it.. yet anyway..

 

[aczlan]

i agree. no way to do it.. yet anyway..

Its simple to lock out the touchscreen when the car is in gear (what will you do about re-routing for traffic slowdowns though?) but for his other problems, I see no way (current or future) to lock out a phone without also locking out the passengers and that wont fly.

Aaron Z

 

[Soundguy]

Its simple to lock out the touchscreen when the car is in gear (what will you do about re-routing for traffic slowdowns though?) but for his other problems, I see no way (current or future) to lock out a phone without also locking out the passengers and that wont fly.

Aaron Z

that's my point.. anything you lock out locks out the passangers ability to use..e tc..

 

[David_Kb7uns]

Yes. They have a "information center" built into the cluster, why in the world can't it read/reset the OBD-II codes, TPMS values, etc.

Aaron Z

Not sure if it has changed since Fiat bought Chrysler but the 2004 Town & Country, 2005 Dodge Ram and 2006 Jeep Commander all will display major OBD codes in the odometer window after cycling the key on and off 3 times.

They would all also program extra keys by themselves with out the programming tool provided you had the original 2 but that was taken out because of fraud at dealers by lot people programming extra keys and selling them to crooks.

David Kb7uns

 

[yelbike]

Not sure if it has changed since Fiat bought Chrysler but the 2004 Town & Country, 2005 Dodge Ram and 2006 Jeep Commander all will display major OBD codes in the odometer window after cycling the key on and off 3 times.


David Kb7uns

That's almost makes me want to buy dodge product.....almost.
As for the key thing ford is the same way.

 

[sld]

Ha, that's a laugh. When was the last time any major industry in the US got it so called got it stuck to it?

I along with most thinking people that use the roads are happy with the modern development of the autos in our lives. They're safer, longer lasting, cheaper to operate and less troublesome than anything produced in the past (you know, the good old days).

Much of what is the complaint of the op'er has more do to with the manufacturer than any regs coming out of Washington.
Some manufacturers claim it and some don't but the laws litigated some time ago allowed the manufacturers to claim proprietary property of the information about the operation and repair information related to your car. So even as owner of said car, even you must pay for that information if the manufacturer decides to play it that way. Ergo some autos can be read out and reset from a dash display and others can't.

Personally I'd like to mandate blocking of all phone, texting and live gps mapping while the car is moving. There isn't a day go by that I don't have to take some kind of evasive action because someone isn't paying attention to driving.

An idiot that is too stupid to check his air pressure, has a blowout and then a bad wreck. He sues Ford or Firestone for a defective product.

That is sticking it to the big bad corporation and not taking personal responsibility.