John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

Yep, I agree. I have a good friend that I went to school with who is a very large row crop farmer now. A few years ago he was the largest Soy Bean producer in Missouri, farms around 25,000 acres. He's all John Deere. Has always been. For the six years he's been in a lease contract for his combines. Gets new ones every year. Says he can't run the Deere machines as long as he used to without having problems. Doesn't want to put his harvest at risk because machines are broke down.

To me, after reading Couv's story, it appears there are manufacturing defects that have contributed to and/or caused the problems he had. It appears it took Deere longer than it should have to get to the root cause.

I run a John Deere road grader. We trade every 4 years. The machine we have now is two years old. The previous machine had a transmission based failure. It would not move. Shift into any gear and it would go to 1st for a few seconds, then neutral. I had a foot of snow drifted by high winds with roads closed. Had the V-plow on and the blade wing when it quit me, two miles from my house. Had to have the neighboring township come and tow me home with their grader. Come to find out it was the wire plugin terminal on the 2nd-3rd gear shift solenoid. Fixed the problem with a $10 replacement plugin. JD has since quit using the old type plug because of too many failures. I've ran new JD graders since 1989. Never had a previous problem. Would appear that a quality product was not originally used. Only reason I could think would be cost savings. That's not the John Deere that I grew up with.

I was embarrassed and disappointed. Especially since I was pulled home by a CAT grader..... Only good thing is he's using my grader today because his CAT is broke down!!!!

I would've pulled my ski mask down while being towed...

 

[calhoun9001]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

I have been working in the auto industry as a mechanic for over twenty years, This is very minor to the stuff we see. I understand the frustration for the owners, but have seen much worse with the big three. All manufactures are trying to stay competitive, emmisions is a big price factor now in the tractor world, to stay competitive they use new technology. With the new tech comes new problems. I specialize in driveability and electrical problems, For as frustrating as it is for the consumer it just as bad for the tech. We spend countless hours trying to fix intermittent problems, many times its a process of elimination. I've had engineers standing next to me that designed the product we are working on and have no idea why its doing that. Just like cars have made the transition from simple to complex, tractors are now on that journey. I think this has a lot to do with people saying the older products were much more reliable.

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

You guys really make it tough, I work next to a Deere dealership and was really considering a 5075E with Power Reverser. I even have a quote for a new one one my desk. Following this theard I may look at another color or go over the warrenty in detail. Sucks. I really like the way the 5075E was setup.

 

[murphy1244]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

You guys really make it tough, I work next to a Deere dealership and was really considering a 5075E with Power Reverser. I even have a quote for a new one one my desk. Following this theard I may look at another color or go over the warrenty in detail. Sucks. I really like the way the 5075E was setup.

If he is a good dealer I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

You guys really make it tough, I work next to a Deere dealership and was really considering a 5075E with Power Reverser. I even have a quote for a new one one my desk. Following this theard I may look at another color or go over the warrenty in detail. Sucks. I really like the way the 5075E was setup.

I've heard the newer models are fixed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[econometrics]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

You guys really make it tough, I work next to a Deere dealership and was really considering a 5075E with Power Reverser. I even have a quote for a new one one my desk. Following this theard I may look at another color or go over the warrenty in detail. Sucks. I really like the way the 5075E was setup.

I've heard the newer models are fixed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I have the new 5075E with PR transmission. It's great.

If I were you, I would not let this hydro issue deter you from buying the 5075E if you like it. It's a completely different transmission package that what is on the 5000E series tractors that are being reported to melt fuel tanks.

And I agree with murphy1244... if you like the dealer, you will be just fine.

PS: feel free to pick my brain about the new 5075E if you'd like. I have a couple very detail threads on it:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-buying-pricing/289667-2013-5075e-powrreverser.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/291299-new-john-deere-5075e-open.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/292263-new-5075e-powrreverser-delivery.html

 

[dfkrug]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

I've had engineers standing next to me that designed the product we are working
on and have no idea why its doing that.

Yes, indeed.

As a former design engineer (semiconductor), I can tell you that the initial design might be 1% of creating a
product. The other 99% is getting it debugged and made, then figuring out why it fails in the real world.
Sadly, most design engineers see little of the manufacturing process, or what happens in the field.

 

[fieldman12]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

You guys really make it tough, I work next to a Deere dealership and was really considering a 5075E with Power Reverser. I even have a quote for a new one one my desk. Following this theard I may look at another color or go over the warrenty in detail. Sucks. I really like the way the 5075E was setup.

Where not trying to scare you where just saying Deere is not as reliable as they once where and to be honest especially in big equipment I see other brands with issue. For example a buddy of mine just had an engine blow up on a Case IH 485 Steiger. In my opinion allot of it is electrical issues, some is related to Tier IV issues, and some of it is that Deere has slacked up some. As much as I hate to admit it allot of the old timers that worked at Deere and other manufactures that helped build them have retired and the younger guys are trying to live off the name. I like my 5055E so far. I had a few issues with it when I first got it (mainly coolant hoses leaking) but other than that no big complaints. As far as little machines go though not allot has changed in my opinion not to build a quality product.

 

[fieldman12]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

I like Deere construction equipment but in my opinion its hard to beat a Cat.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Re: John Deere "E" Series Hydraulic Systems Failures Overheating, Stuck Valves, etc

I like Deere construction equipment but in my opinion its hard to beat a Cat.

Hey you forgot this on your post. :stirthepot: