To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies

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I waffled back and forth on which sub-forum to post this question....parts/repairs seemed the most logical.

Ever have one of "those" projects that keep going. It started with a miss in the MF150, which led to a valve job, which led to replacing the plastic nose, which led me to the question of a re-paint (might as well get a new seat while I'm at it and fix the gas gauge, gonna need some brakes here soon too). Apparently in 1968, MF decided to put a plastic nose cone on these tractors. Some 46 years later, the plastic is brittle and cracked (plus I broke a chunk off of it getting a bolt out). I finally tracked down a metal replacement. It comes primed (red) and ready to paint. Now I don't have anything against Rudolph, but I don't want my tractor to look like him by putting a shiny new red nose on an also faded out red hood. I'm trying to decide if I want to tackle painting the hood, fenders and nose myself. I have no sanding/sand blasting or paint tools and equipment so think HarborFreight for recommendations as I hope to never do this again. Sandblast first or clean well and start painting? Primer first, then finish? What type of gun gravity or suction? What size nozzle on the spray gun 1, 1.3, 1.8? What type of paint? Hardener? Clearcoat?

I suspect opinions to be all over the place, I'm just looking for a "painting 101 for dummies." I'm not looking to win any show ribbons, just get it where it looks decent and fend off some rust.
 
   / To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies #2  
There are a few things to consider when painting your tractor. Ask 10 forum members and you will get 11 different answers. Rather than type mine out I'll just give you the link to my B21 page where I discuss what technique I used to restore it.

B21
 
   / To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies
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There are a few things to consider when painting your tractor. Ask 10 forum members and you will get 11 different answers. Rather than type mine out I'll just give you the link to my B21 page where I discuss what technique I used to restore it.

B21

Good info, thanks. I didn't see anything about what you used or why you decided to sand down the hood.
 
   / To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies #4  
Good info, thanks. I didn't see anything about what you used or why you decided to sand down the hood.

Are you asking about the equipment I used or the paint and reducer? I thought I had mentioned both. Feel free to ask.

I had to sand down the hood because there was a big dent put there by the previous owner and I had to knock it out (thanks Harbor Freight for the inexpensive body kit). After I tried to paint it the first time, I didn't know what I was doing and the paint curled. Had to do some research to see what I was doing wrong. The easiest way to remove the old paint and smooth the dent was by using a flap disk.
 
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Are you asking about the equipment I used or the paint and reducer? I thought I had mentioned both. Feel free to ask.

I had to sand down the hood because there was a big dent put there by the previous owner and I had to knock it out (thanks Harbor Freight for the inexpensive body kit). After I tried to paint it the first time, I didn't know what I was doing and the paint curled. Had to do some research to see what I was doing wrong. The easiest way to remove the old paint and smooth the dent was by using a flap disk.

The equipment to sand. I've been looking at sand blasters is the reason I asked. The paint mix/formula will draw lots of opinions with hardners/lacquer/clear cote not to mention epoxy paint or something else.
 
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I would take it to local body shop. Due to the last few years with consolidation in the trade they are probably starving for work. I would bet you could get it done for less than cost of materials. 3 to 4 hundred. IMO
 
   / To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies #7  
if you take your time .. harbor freight 20ish dollar paint guns can make some decent looking tractors :)
 
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I would take it to local body shop. Due to the last few years with consolidation in the trade they are probably starving for work. I would bet you could get it done for less than cost of materials. 3 to 4 hundred. IMO

I've got some feelers out to see if anyone is interested.
 
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Painted my MF 135 with a gun from a $40 Canadian Tire HVLP set (comes with a paint and touch up gun / regulators for each and all the accessories) outside in my driveway on a calm day in June. You will need to have access to air obviously if you don't have your own compressor.

Took everything off the tractor to paint, did it on sawhorses. I had some base / clear left after painting my 2004 Ram Poppy Red so I put it to good use. Pretty close to original colour. Silver was two cans high heat Duplicolour from Canadian Tire, didn't come in grey.

MF 135 010.jpg

Depending on the extent of repairs (whether you have cracks to weld or patches to install due to corrosion etc) all other tools are ones you likely already have (grinder, 1/4 sheet sander etc). Not like there is a lot of surface to work, and as you say you're not looking to win ribbons, but at the end of the day you're obviously looking for something more than a roller and drop cloth will provide as well. I've got to say I've seen some nice looking jobs from just rattle can paint jobs for that matter. I worked in my fathers' body shop as a young man so I chose to spray mine.

Several options out there for you to consider, the real question is how much time, money and effort do you want to put in it.

Good luck. :thumbsup:
 
   / To paint or not to paint - I need painting advice for dummies #10  
I would take it to local body shop. Due to the last few years with consolidation in the trade they are probably starving for work. I would bet you could get it done for less than cost of materials. 3 to 4 hundred. IMO

Great idea. By the time you do the learning curve you will spend plenty and probably not have a satisfactory job. Pay whatever it costs and then start learning on your own for the next job.
 

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