Fixing used Rotary cutter blades

/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #1  

BBerni

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Hi,
I own an old rotary cutters where the 4 blades are used. I want to load up the cutting hedge before sharpening but I not sure what rod type I should uses
Blades thickness == ½ in
Any suggestion?

Thanks a lot.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #2  
Buy new blades! It's not worth the risk. The heat could damage the blades, and then they come apart.:eek: Just not worth it to me.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #3  
Buy new blades! It's not worth the risk. The heat could damage the blades, and then they come apart.:eek: Just not worth it to me.

What he said. If you've ever had one break or come loose, you'll not even consider welding on them.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #4  
Yep. Like the others said replace them. Too easy to start a crack and have a piece get flung off at high speed. Could go through a car door, or the side of a house. Won't do your tires any good either.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #5  
Definitely don't weld them.

Larger gouges/etc. can simply have the gouged edge sharpened, they will still cut just as well.

Past a certain point they need to be replaced. They are not that expensive and last a long time.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades
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#6  
Got it!

Thanks
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #7  
Have to agree, don't weld them.

I run a couple batwings and large fixed deck mowers. as much NOT-FUN as it is to buy6 blades at a time.. it's better than welding one and have it fly out the side or back of the mower and thru a concrete wall and thru the occupant and thru another wall.. yada yada

I seen a blade shoot out go thru a 500$ tire and hit a tree in a field.. and that one wasn't welded. just freak acident!
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #8  
Hmm we have had a local welding shop build up the tips of our bushhog blades since 1969 and never had a problem . They add about 4"s where we have a longer wear period . The look like a one sided axle . It's cheaper for us to just have two sets of blades and have them retipped than buy new all the time . And we get long life out of the retipped blades on staying sharp . Not sure on the steel that's used but it stays sharper than new blades .

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/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #9  
i'm surprised they want the liability!
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #10  
Hmm we have had a local welding shop build up the tips of our bushhog blades since 1969 and never had a problem . They add about 4"s where we have a longer wear period . The look like a one sided axle . It's cheaper for us to just have two sets of blades and have them retipped than buy new all the time . And we get long life out of the retipped blades on staying sharp . Not sure on the steel that's used but it stays sharper than new blades . Sent from my iPhone 5 using TractorByNet

They weld a new piece on the ends? Does it wobble or shake?
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #11  
It sounds like they are hardfaced or they're using a special steel. The welding shop is likely following a special heat treating procedure to repair the blades. If they aren't is scary!:shocked:Definitely not something you want to try on your own. A broken blade can not only go through a tire, it can go through you.
 
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It sounds like they are hardfaced or they're using a special steel. The welding shop is likely following a special heat treating procedure to repair the blades. If they aren't is scary!:shocked:Definitely not something you want to try on your own. A broken blade can not only go through a tire, it can go through you.

Ya I don't know what they use or do .

But they have been doing it for as long as I can remember . I know my dad had been having them do it since the early 70's .

All do is take a set and tell them I need the blades built up and sharp and they do it .

Have never had a tip break and the hog cuts 3"-4" trees like butter .

And ya I wouldn't try it myself . But they know what there doing .

It's a third generation place . They have been in business a long time as a welding shop .

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/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #14  
And ya I wouldn't try it myself . But they know what there doing .

It's a third generation place . They have been in business a long time as a welding shop .

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That is probably the key. No offense to the OP, but if you are coming on a tractor forum to ask what kind of rod to use, chances are you don't know enough to attempt a diy repair on something as potentially dangerous as rc blades.
 
/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #15  
The place where I buy my PTO shafts also repairs driveshafts by welding them and rebalancing. They do this on everything from dragsters to earthmovers. So welding a lawnmower blade seems reasonable for someone with experience.
 
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Different types of steel. A-36 to HY-80. There is more to welding than running beads. ;)
 

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/ Fixing used Rotary cutter blades #17  
Hmm we have had a local welding shop build up the tips of our bushhog blades since 1969 and never had a problem . They add about 4"s where we have a longer wear period . The look like a one sided axle . It's cheaper for us to just have two sets of blades and have them retipped than buy new all the time . And we get long life out of the retipped blades on staying sharp . Not sure on the steel that's used but it stays sharper than new blades .

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Wouldn't the "stays sharp longer" suggest a harder steel which is not as malleable and more likely to shatter? I'm under the impression that a more moderate steel is better all around in applications like this. I expect Bush Hog, Woods, Landpride, etc. have knowledgeable engineers who have optimized the steel selection in their blades.
 
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Used to be a old machinst local that would weld blades together. He's been dead for 30 yrsd or more. I know he had a heat treat method he used but dont know what it was. He heated, welded, stuck in lime or sand to cool, and repeated. I dont know how hot he heated, what kind of rods he used, or anything like that. Never heard of any of his welded blades breaking. This is certainly not something I would attemp to do.
 

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