Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage

[dragoneggs]

1) Buy and install a 2-pole 30A breaker.
2) Abandon the supply lugs and side feed into item (1). They will be your disconnect on site
3) Buy a floating neutral kit at McLendons and move all your whites there
4) Add a ground rod
5) Add breakers as needed, and as room allows
6) Your sum of your breakers can exceed the feed with no violation

Easy peasy

Wow! Thanks for this... I am running my 230V from an extension cord from a dryer plugin out to my detached garage.... i know, i know. I gotta get busy and install a sub panel and legit 230v.

 

[dragoneggs]

OK, more questions.. do all the ground wires including the ground wire from the main panel and the ground wire from the local ground rod go to the ground buss?

You addressed adding the floating (not attached to the box or the ground buss.) neutral buss, and I assume the neutral from the main panel feed goes there as well as all the white/neutral wires in this building and DOES NOT connect or bond with the ground wires.

You just failed to address what exactly happens to the ground wires on the circuits and the ground wire from the main panel and the ground wire from the new locally driven ground rod.

And from what I could see of his box, he does not have enough space to have a 30 amp disconnect to accept the feed from the main panel AND also have room for another 30 amp breaker for the welder.

Okay James... you bursted my bubble of enthusiasm.

 

[cycle_gator]

Regardless of adding an additional ground rod, all the ground wires in that panel to to one buss and all the neutrals to to a separate, isolated buss, no mixing, period.

Dragoneggs, for a view out your front window I will make a trip to Seabeck and help you out. Okay, maybe a beer, or two, as well.

 

[k0ua]

Okay James... you bursted my bubble of enthusiasm.

Sorry, I am just trying to ask questions here myself, as I am no expert in this. Now getting you wired phone system going and lightning protection for it,.. yep I can help.

 

[Rock knocker]

Okay James... you bursted my bubble of enthusiasm.

All the grounds to a bar bonded to the chassis of the panel. All the neutrals to a floating bar electrically isolated from the panel chassis.

 

[k0ua]

All the grounds to a bar bonded to the chassis of the panel. All the neutrals to a floating bar electrically isolated from the panel chassis.

Thanks.

 

[Rock knocker]

And from what I could see of his box, he does not have enough space to have a 30 amp disconnect to accept the feed from the main panel AND also have room for another 30 amp breaker for the welder.

Slimlines as long as the manufacturers maximum number of breakers is not exceeded.

And if you side feed into a 2p 30A breaker, it takes a single motion to kill the panel. The side feed should not be a slim line

 

[Rock knocker]

What part of Sea Town is the OP? Sodo? Not much room for a tractor there

 

[Sodo]

Have a timber land in the Cascades.

1) Buy and install a 2-pole 30A breaker.
2) Abandon the supply lugs and side feed into item (1). They will be your disconnect on site
3) Buy a floating neutral kit at McLendons and move all your whites there
4) Add a ground rod
5) Add breakers as needed, and as room allows
6) Your sum of your breakers can exceed the feed with no violation

Easy peasy

AWESOME!

But I just 'finished' it (as in this pic).
2) OK understand - can kill the panel with one motion. Not sure I want that. It might confuse me someday that if the 30A are off the other ones are off too.
3) Pretty sure the panel neutral IS floating. It's sitting on plastic.
4) Ground rod: S219 and another says it's not req'd. Do you think it's necessary?

Hows my pic look?

All tested, buttoned up and ready to go. Only problem I have no 3/8" steel to weld here at home. And no stick-welding rod either!

 

[Rock knocker]

Looks good