3/4 ton mpg empty?

[dodge man]

Yeah, 30 lbs of boost is a full throttle number.

 

[Diamondpilot]

What mid size suv is rated for 9K

You are so full of it, it's unbelievable.

Ok, maybe not 9K but 8K. And all will tow that weight better than the Eco Diesel.

Don't forget also the Ram can't legally tow it's listed tow rating due to its low GVWR. 7500# is its real world limit and it's been proven to struggle with that getting stomped by both Ford and GM'S gas trucks.

The Eco-diesel is not a serious truck for work. It's for the guy who never tows anything serious and needs a little bed space from time to time.

Chris

 

[mikehaugen]

Probably not much help, but my '96 ram 2500 ec lb 4x4 and 3.54 gears with 5.9 gas originally would get about 13, 14 under the right circumstances. Larger tires and a tired engine later it get 11... 8 mostly now though because it rarely moves anymore unless it's loaded down or has a trailer following it.

As much as I'd like to get a diesel, I will probably either put some work into this or will end up with a hemi or 6.0 chevy for my next truck. From what I'm hearing I guess I can't expect much improvement over my 13 or 14 from before... though I will have quite a bit more power at my disposal.

 

[roadhunter]

For a good reason. It tows less than a mid sized SUV.

Chris

Do you really believe that a truck with 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque can't tow anything?

Here is a review on the towing.
2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Review: Towing and MPG Fuel Economy

Amazing how you guys can derail a thread simply to further your agenda of bashing other brands like the eco diesel and making up all kinds of stories about your eco boots engines when the thread is supposed to be about 3/4 ton pickups and fuel economy.

So according to your statements in this thread the eco diesel dodge tows less than mid size SUV's but the eco boost ford will pull better then a 1 ton dually with a diesel. Do you not see how ridiculous you guy act? it's obvious to the rest of us.

How many times have you pointed out which auto companies took money from the government? Seriously do you think it's over 100 times?

The act is worn out.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Do you really believe that a truck with 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque can't tow anything?

Here is a review on the towing.
2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Review: Towing and MPG Fuel Economy

Amazing how you guys can derail a thread simply to further your agenda of bashing other brands like the eco diesel and making up all kinds of stories about your eco boots engines when the thread is supposed to be about 3/4 ton pickups and fuel economy.

So according to your statements in this thread the eco diesel dodge tows less than mid size SUV's but the eco boost ford will pull better then a 1 ton dually with a diesel. Do you not see how ridiculous you guy act? it's obvious to the rest of us.

How many times have you pointed out which auto companies took money from the government? Seriously do you think it's over 100 times?

The act is worn out.

I believe it can't if there is not sufficient GVWR to obtain the proper tongue weight. If it were not for that it would be fine, just a little dogish for today's standards.

And yes, I will stand by my statement comparing a 15 year old diesel truck to today's best gassers. It's called progress.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Do you really believe that a truck with 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque can't tow anything?

Here is a review on the towing.
2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Review: Towing and MPG Fuel Economy

Amazing how you guys can derail a thread simply to further your agenda of bashing other brands like the eco diesel and making up all kinds of stories about your eco boots engines when the thread is supposed to be about 3/4 ton pickups and fuel economy.

So according to your statements in this thread the eco diesel dodge tows less than mid size SUV's but the eco boost ford will pull better then a 1 ton dually with a diesel. Do you not see how ridiculous you guy act? it's obvious to the rest of us.

How many times have you pointed out which auto companies took money from the government? Seriously do you think it's over 100 times?

The act is worn out.

And by the way I never derailed anything. I told him numbers for gas and diesel 3/4 ton trucks then brought up the Ecoboost as an option. My numbers seem to jive with what others are getting from their 3/4 ton trucks. The Eco-diesel RAM was not brought up till much later.

Chris

 

[fordmantpw]

Do you really believe that a truck with 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque can't tow anything?

Here is a review on the towing.
2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Review: Towing and MPG Fuel Economy

Did you read the text at the link you quoted?

our well-outfitted Laramie Long Horn 4x4 was rated to tow 7,300 pounds.

That doesn't fit what the OP is looking for. Not even close. So, let's just leave it at that and move on, eh?

Amazing how you guys can derail a thread simply to further your agenda of bashing other brands like the eco diesel and making up all kinds of stories about your eco boots engines when the thread is supposed to be about 3/4 ton pickups and fuel economy.

The Ram ED is a 1/2 ton, right? It wasn't Diamondpilot that brought it up.

 

[930ck]

My 2013 regular cab, 4x4, 8' bed with a 6.0 gas will get around 14 to 16 on flat roads and no wind, at 65 mph. Any stop and start drops it to an average of 12.

 

[fordmantpw]

Here is a good 'real-world' comparison for 3/4 ton (gas) fuel economy:

Ultimate Three-Quarter-Ton HD Challenge: Fuel Economy - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports

 

[KiotiKowboy]

fordmantpw - that's an interesting link. I'd be curious to know how many miles were on those trucks when tested. I've been able to get into the 14's on my 2500 HD but it ain't easy. Those guys made it sound like they just hit the A/C and went for a joyride. I also didn't see what type of fuel they ran, "real" or "corn?"

 

[mikehaugen]

Here is a good 'real-world' comparison for 3/4 ton (gas) fuel economy:

Ultimate Three-Quarter-Ton HD Challenge: Fuel Economy - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports

Note that the ford had the highest rearend and the ram had the most power/ torque. Still much closer than I would have expected.

 

[fordmantpw]

KiotiKowboy, don't you have larger tires on your truck? That makes a big difference.

That link is probably better at comparing the 3 brands against each other vs. what any one person should expect in the real world since everyone's driving style is different.

 

[mikehaugen]

That link is probably better at comparing the 3 brands against each other vs. what any one person should expect in the real world since everyone's driving style is different.

I agree

 

[fordmantpw]

Note that the ford had the highest rearend

Yeah, I think that is a lot of the reason that the Ford fell so much when loaded compared to the others. If I were running empty most of the time, I would go with the lower gears.

EDIT: To clarify: lower numerically, higher gears.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

Yes ... but .... in reality, they're not THAT much larger. I swapped out the factory tires/wheels and went with 19" Fuel Krank wheels and 33" all-terrain tires. The original tires were 31.9"

 

[fordmantpw]

Yes ... but .... in reality, they're not THAT much larger. I swapped out the factory tires/wheels and went with 19" Fuel Krank wheels and 33" all-terrain tires. The original tires were 31.9"

Well, that is 3.4% difference in circumference, so you are actually getting 3.4% better fuel economy than what you think (unless you had the speedo calibrated) since you are traveling 3.4% further than your odometer reads. At 14 MPG, that's a .5 MPG difference. A tremendous amount! :laughing:

That doesn't take into account the extra energy it takes to turn the larger, heavier, wheels and tires. That's probably good for another .5 MPG or so.

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That sure is a sharp truck! :thumbsup:

 

[roadhunter]

And by the way I never derailed anything. I told him numbers for gas and diesel 3/4 ton trucks then brought up the Ecoboost as an option. My numbers seem to jive with what others are getting from their 3/4 ton trucks. The Eco-diesel RAM was not brought up till much later.

Chris

You can pretend all you want. You guys derailed the thread from talking about 3/4 ton gas mileage to eco boosts and eco diesel neither of which are 3/4 ton trucks. Happens all the time. It's obvious to the rest of us.

 

[roadhunter]

Did you read the text at the link you quoted?

Yep. Looks like that truck will tow 7-9k pounds depending on options. Your point?

That doesn't fit what the OP is looking for. Not even close. So, let's just leave it at that and move on, eh?

So now you want to actually talk about the OP. Hilarious since you were one of the folks who derailed the thread in the first place.

The Ram ED is a 1/2 ton, right? It wasn't Diamondpilot that brought it up.

SSDD.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

I considered having the speedometer recalculated - more about not getting a nice ticket than anything else. Turns out, at least according to the dealer, the recalc is a programming change that has to be backed out for many warranty repair issues. I decided if I keep my speed below 80 on the gauge, it should be safe enough to avoid a hassle. At lesser speeds, the difference in MPH is not significant enough to care.

And - thanks

 

[fordmantpw]

I considered having the speedometer recalculated - more about not getting a nice ticket than anything else. Turns out, at least according to the dealer, the recalc is a programming change that has to be backed out for many warranty repair issues. I decided if I keep my speed below 80 on the gauge, it should be safe enough to avoid a hassle. At lesser speeds, the difference in MPH is not significant enough to care.

And - thanks

In reality, most speedos display 2-3 MPG fast from the factory anyway (although the odometer is spot on), so your speedo is probably about spot-on. Check it with a GPS and I'd bet it's within 1 MPH at 70. Your odo will still be 3.4% slow though, so when you sell your truck with 100k miles, it will actually have 103k.