PAGUY
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Why not leave a notice with emergency management in your area ( or FD or PD or relative) to come check on your location after the fact.
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I would agree with the cordless sawzall, not quite as expensive and can use it all the time. 12" demolition blades can do some damage.
Porta potty is an interesting idea, as a f4 or f5 might be scaring some stuff out of you.....:laughing:
Porta potty is an interesting idea, as a f4 or f5 might be scaring some stuff out of you.....:laughing:
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That is already in place here in Oklahoma, you register your storm shelter in the local registry.
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Fail-safe planning is always challenging.
Something like tornadoes make it more so since they are unpredictable to begin with and do strange things to boot. I don't know the statistical chance of a tornado, it has to be pretty small. On top of that, the chance that a tornado would block the safe room exit to the extent that cutting tools are needed is pretty small too I would think.
I used to deal with the same ideas doing database work. Off-site backup storage, lease agreements with disaster recovery sites, remote mirrored disk storage and so on. The likelihood of needing any of that is very small, but if you did need it and didn't have it, the company would die from the disruption of business. Sort of like people in bad storms.
The safe room is a great idea. I'm not sure what sort of logic can be applied to maximize its effectiveness as a storm refuge, but if it is worth having, then it is worth making as good as possible within the usual constraints. This would be my short-list of things to try prepare for:
1) Being trapped inside by debris.
It could be a two-by-four or the entire gable end of a roof, a vehicle, pile of cows
. No way to predict. A really freak occurrence would be something that damages the door making it unopenable. I think the impact of flying 50' oak tree might do that.
2) Fire following a storm.
Natural gas or propane leak, fuel in vehicles are all ignition points and there would be no shortage of combustible material around. Some tornado remains are swept bare, some are piles of stuff that burn. Don't know what would useful beyond a fire extinguisher? Heat repellent blankets like smoke jumpers carry? Breathing masks?
3) Able to support those inside for at least 24 hours.
Food, water, prescription drugs, etc.
4) Self reliance.
You could be on a list, but the responders will be overwhelmed in a large event. They could be excused for assuming you are safer (and less critical to rescue) than someone under a pile of debris or just plain searching for those missing. In any case it takes time, manpower, equipment on site, and coordination. Best case would be family or friends not too far away that know to come looking for you. There is no absolute guarantee they would be allowed to enter the disaster area, but they would be your advocates certainly if they were denied entry.
Logically, every step or entity you add to a solution is a potential point of failure, and certainly it will add time. Self reliance can eliminate some of that.
Something like tornadoes make it more so since they are unpredictable to begin with and do strange things to boot. I don't know the statistical chance of a tornado, it has to be pretty small. On top of that, the chance that a tornado would block the safe room exit to the extent that cutting tools are needed is pretty small too I would think.
I used to deal with the same ideas doing database work. Off-site backup storage, lease agreements with disaster recovery sites, remote mirrored disk storage and so on. The likelihood of needing any of that is very small, but if you did need it and didn't have it, the company would die from the disruption of business. Sort of like people in bad storms.
The safe room is a great idea. I'm not sure what sort of logic can be applied to maximize its effectiveness as a storm refuge, but if it is worth having, then it is worth making as good as possible within the usual constraints. This would be my short-list of things to try prepare for:
1) Being trapped inside by debris.
It could be a two-by-four or the entire gable end of a roof, a vehicle, pile of cows
. No way to predict. A really freak occurrence would be something that damages the door making it unopenable. I think the impact of flying 50' oak tree might do that.2) Fire following a storm.
Natural gas or propane leak, fuel in vehicles are all ignition points and there would be no shortage of combustible material around. Some tornado remains are swept bare, some are piles of stuff that burn. Don't know what would useful beyond a fire extinguisher? Heat repellent blankets like smoke jumpers carry? Breathing masks?
3) Able to support those inside for at least 24 hours.
Food, water, prescription drugs, etc.
4) Self reliance.
You could be on a list, but the responders will be overwhelmed in a large event. They could be excused for assuming you are safer (and less critical to rescue) than someone under a pile of debris or just plain searching for those missing. In any case it takes time, manpower, equipment on site, and coordination. Best case would be family or friends not too far away that know to come looking for you. There is no absolute guarantee they would be allowed to enter the disaster area, but they would be your advocates certainly if they were denied entry.
Logically, every step or entity you add to a solution is a potential point of failure, and certainly it will add time. Self reliance can eliminate some of that.
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Great discussion everyone. I now have some great ideas to use when storm season rolls around!
Framing is slowly progressing. Here is how it looked a few days ago:
View while walking up hill from pond:
View pulling in from driveway:
View from side lawn area (front porch is visible, 46' long):
Back of house (back porch beams can be seen, back porch will be 68 foot long!):
Framing is slowly progressing. Here is how it looked a few days ago:
View while walking up hill from pond:
View pulling in from driveway:
View from side lawn area (front porch is visible, 46' long):
Back of house (back porch beams can be seen, back porch will be 68 foot long!):
And to everyone that read about our pending adoption... the baby (Reagan) is in state custody and was removed from her previous foster home (for reasons they will not say, we suspect drug use) and placed in ours! We are now her foster parents and will have the option to adopt in 6 months. Last Monday we were given a two hour notice that she was on her way to our house! We thought this process was going to take a year or more so this is a relief.
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Awesome!!!
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Congratulations! :thumbsup:
mikim
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I wouldn't worry too much about the door. If it stays latched - you're good...if it doesn't you'll get wet but still be OK. Safe room during new construction is such a great idea. They should make it a standard item. Then again if you double down on that door and put in a "safe" door....the room can double as a gun safe.
dave1949
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It's wonderful you are giving that baby a real home (not the new home, home home
) with a loving family. The house is moving right along. I like the extensive porches. I bet they will get used a lot.