Firewood processor build thread

[mikehaugen]

What did you thin it with?

 

[kiotiken]

What did you thin it with?

lacquer thinner

 

[farmer2009]

Would you care to tell us just how much you have in the build? If you already have my apologies. And about how much more it will take to finish the build.

 

[kiotiken]

Would you care to tell us just how much you have in the build? If you already have my apologies. And about how much more it will take to finish the build.

I'm planning to do my best to add it up at the end and I'll post a better number then. I really should keep better track but I'd say I'm between $4-$5K now. The only money I have left to spend is 10 gallons of hydraulic fluid, so about $100 and a bunch of nuts and bolts, so maybe another $20 there.

 

[kiotiken]

HEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! The paint is still tacky except for the area that I used the paint without thinning it, in that area, it's perfect. Obviously, they meant what they said on the can and my paint guy was dead wrong. So, do you think it will eventually harden? Should I just put a second (un-thinned obviously) coat over top of it, even if it stays tacky? I don't have a sand blaster, the weather's getting rough so there's no way I'm stripping off the paint I've already applied. I'm leaving it tonight to see if there's any difference this time tomorrow, but it's been 24 hours and I'm supposed to be able to re-coat by now.

 

[murphy1244]

Can you heat it up Ken?

 

[Scooby074]

HEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!! The paint is still tacky except for the area that I used the paint without thinning it, in that area, it's perfect. Obviously, they meant what they said on the can and my paint guy was dead wrong. So, do you think it will eventually harden? Should I just put a second (un-thinned obviously) coat over top of it, even if it stays tacky? I don't have a sand blaster, the weather's getting rough so there's no way I'm stripping off the paint I've already applied. I'm leaving it tonight to see if there's any difference this time tomorrow, but it's been 24 hours and I'm supposed to be able to re-coat by now.

Those high tech paints can be really touchy about thinning, not only what is used, but thinning in general.

To spray high solids, industral paints akes industrial gear. I know its a bit late now, but thats why I usually recommend that homeowners either brush paint like that or if they insist on spraying, use something like Tremclad. Thats ignoring the chemical hazards of Urethanes as well.

4336 is a Urethane modded alkyd. You found an incompatibility with your Lacquer thinner.

You can try cranking up a heater near it to maybe "bake" it, but in all honesty I think your screwed.

Id run it as is. It doesnt take long for paint to get bashed up on a processor. Otherwise, youre looking at stripping it (chemical stripper, inside) and redoing. Not the end of the world in its disassembled state, but likely more than you want to do.

If you paint over it, the paint will likely be soft underneath the new top coat and will allegator or lift over time.

One possible cause of your problem I just thought of... Does this place sell a lot of industrial paint? Ive seen it where paints are old stock and wont harden. Its likely not the case because the non-thinned paint worked, but it just came to me. I went looking for the datasheet on this paint because I was not familiar with it, and could not find a listing for Devguard 4336 on the main Devoe site. I eventually found a datasheet through another search however. Makes me wonder if it is a current product and you didnt get sold old stock.

One thing I learned painting, for the most part, the instructions are there for a reason and need to be followed to a T. Higher performance paints especially. Where Tremclad is idiot proof, these paints arent.

Again, Id probably run it as is, and save the repaint for maintenance in a couple years.

 

[kiotiken]

Those high tech paints can be really touchy about thinning, not only what is used, but thinning in general.

To spray high solids, industral paints akes industrial gear. I know its a bit late now, but thats why I usually recommend that homeowners either brush paint like that or if they insist on spraying, use something like Tremclad. Thats ignoring the chemical hazards of Urethanes as well.

4336 is a Urethane modded alkyd. You found an incompatibility with your Lacquer thinner.

You can try cranking up a heater near it to maybe "bake" it, but in all honesty I think your screwed.

Id run it as is. It doesnt take long for paint to get bashed up on a processor. Otherwise, youre looking at stripping it (chemical stripper, inside) and redoing. Not the end of the world in its disassembled state, but likely more than you want to do.

If you paint over it, the paint will likely be soft underneath the new top coat and will allegator or lift over time.

One possible cause of your problem I just thought of... Does this place sell a lot of industrial paint? Ive seen it where paints are old stock and wont harden. Its likely not the case because the non-thinned paint worked, but it just came to me. I went looking for the datasheet on this paint because I was not familiar with it, and could not find a listing for Devguard 4336 on the main Devoe site. I eventually found a datasheet through another search however. Makes me wonder if it is a current product and you didnt get sold old stock.

One thing I learned painting, for the most part, the instructions are there for a reason and need to be followed to a T. Higher performance paints especially. Where Tremclad is idiot proof, these paints arent.

Again, Id probably run it as is, and save the repaint for maintenance in a couple years.

Well, that sucks! Thanks for such a detailed, depressing response, I agree with your views, "I'm screwed". I have the shop heater at the end of the processor blowing hot air over it. Some parts seem tackier than others, but where it's tacky, it's obviously very soft and can be scratched down to the metal.

I don't know how old the paint is. I did just call the person who sold it to me and he's trying to get in touch with the local rep. He told me over and over that there would be no issue thinning it with a little lacquer thinner to get it to spray properly. Pretty obvious he was wrong.

Out of curiosity, what type of industrial gear are you talking about? Should I have rented an airless sprayer? Unfortunately, I needed to spray to get into all the nooks and crannies of the processor, you'd never get a brush in some of them.

So, I'll see what the paint guy has to say, but unless he's going to volunteer to come and strip it for me, I doubt it's going to matter much. I think I'll leave it in places it wont really be touched like the bottom side of the trough but try and take it off using a flap disk in areas it's going to see weather and be knocked about. Like you say, it's a lot easier now then when it's re-assembled. I'll just have to see if it simply gums up a flap disk, I don't have a sandblaster.

Thanks for the info. Is this your profession?

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

That's been a rough few days.....

Since I hate painting on a good day, it kinda makes me appreciate my "screw it, let it rust" method of finishing. I'd guess a flap wheel will gum up by the sounds of things. Perhaps better luck with a wire wheel in the grinder or drill?

 

[kiotiken]

That's been a rough few days.....

Since I hate painting on a good day, it kinda makes me appreciate my "screw it, let it rust" method of finishing. I'd guess a flap wheel will gum up by the sounds of things. Perhaps better luck with a wire wheel in the grinder or drill?

Ya, this projects been going down hill for a while now and to top it off, I've got a wicked cold right now and not much drive to get out and finish it. I'll be trying a wire wheel as well I just don't think anything is going to remove the paint except sandblasting or chemicals as Scooby suggests, neither being an option for me.