Buying Advice Used JD 110 vs everything else

   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #101  
You know.. I've been having those same thoughts about my 110 for several years now... cab, 10-15 more Hp @pto, etc, etc.

So, I bought a JD4720 cab with 400CX loader this past year. Very nice, comfortable and capable machine. But... and this is a BIG but - it won't hold a clod to workin' the dirt like the 110!!

Not even close...


So, better get ALL your heavy ground projects done before you sell the 110 and sit in the seat of that cab, 4520!

AKfish

I have a Kubota L39, that has the engine and trans of Kubota Grand L. The difference between the light construction machine and the Ag machine is the BH, intergrated Loader Frame and greater hydraulic capacity.

I've broke my L39, but iI'd have destroyed and ag tractor, two times over.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #102  
A little care in operating the machine, not making big impact type loads on the castings and you'll never break a JD110. They are a solid tractor. Like AKfish mentions, he has done a ton of work with his without issue. I do not think the JD110 is particularly weak in the bell housing, I just think it runs a really stout loader and if used like a "rental" you can break it. I would not let that affect a decision to buy one of these. If it isn't already cracked or broken, it is highly unlikely a careful operator will break it. If I didn't already have a skid steer and mini-excavator at home, I'd consider a JD110. I wish Mahindra made a dedicated TLB for the USA market. We sell a ton of backhoes on the smaller Mahindras and folks are happy with these just like the green JD and the Blue NH (as opposed to commercial units). But they are a small farm tractor with a backhoe attachment, not a dedicated machine. You give up some reach and strength for the versatility of being able to quickly dismount the backhoe and attach implements.



I think JCB makes a "midi" 50'ish HP TLB. I've not owned or used one, but that sounds like a good size.

I always wonder why Kubota just owns this market? is it that small?
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #103  
I always wonder why Kubota just owns this market? is it that small?

Very good question.... Must be good "business" reasons though, for Kubota to continue their involvement and to offer 3 different models!

Of course, it doesn't take alot of imagination to visualize a corporate financial strategy meeting at JD when the various divisions trot out their cost-revenue projections...

Let's see.. 8000-9000 AG series machine vs 110TLB? Hmm, where should we invest the shareholders money?

AKfish
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #104  
Very good question.... Must be good "business" reasons though, for Kubota to continue their involvement and to offer 3 different models!

Of course, it doesn't take alot of imagination to visualize a corporate financial strategy meeting at JD when the various divisions trot out their cost-revenue projections...

Let's see.. 8000-9000 AG series machine vs 110TLB? Hmm, where should we invest the shareholders money?

AKfish

Well, the Ag tractors at about 100 to 200K each, a TLB about 50 to 60K each...

It's meetings like these that keep us busy here, if every company made a perfect tractor (that'll be the day), we here would be out of a hobby.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #105  
I'll buy every 8000-9000 tractor you can sell me for $100-200K!! You'll be losing about $150K on every 8000 machine @ $100K and your losses on every 9000 series machine @ $200K would be in the $125K range and up!

Yeah, they're in the $250K - $350K price range!

AKfish
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #106  
I priced a new 6130 tractor loaded out came to $176k, no point in me looking at a 8000-9000 series.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #107  
I'll buy every 8000-9000 tractor you can sell me for $100-200K!! You'll be losing about $150K on every 8000 machine @ $100K and your losses on every 9000 series machine @ $200K would be in the $125K range and up!

Yeah, they're in the $250K - $350K price range!

AKfish

Well, I think the point is made! I believe the biggest 9000 series are over 400K now too.

I think we're getting sidetracked though...
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #108  
6210 john deere how much is it worth
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #109  
After the building is done the hoe will get useless real quick on 4.5 acres.

If you like the 110 buy it and build with it and beat the **** out of it getting your place whipped into shape, then sell it and get a new tractor without a hoe to keep it maintained in the future.

That is what I would do.

Useless backhoe, it is an 1800 lb Counterweight. I used it yesterday to lift the tractor back on the road I slid off plowing and saved a wrecker visit.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #110  
Useless backhoe, it is an 1800 lb Counterweight. I used it yesterday to lift the tractor back on the road I slid off plowing and saved a wrecker visit.

Yeah that happens often in California where the OP was asking about.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #111  
Yeah that happens often in California where the OP was asking about.

Maybe he was referring to a "mudslide" that he had to plow...

AKfish
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else
  • Thread Starter
#112  
The few 110s Ive been able to find within a days drive have gone pretty quickly. Any leads besides craigslist/equipment trader etc? I see lots on the east coast that have been listed for close to a year!
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #113  
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #114  
The few 110s Ive been able to find within a days drive have gone pretty quickly. Any leads besides craigslist/equipment trader etc? I see lots on the east coast that have been listed for close to a year!

I'm in Oakland CA and had pretty much given up finding a JD110.

Looked everyday and nothing... or they were hundreds or thousands of miles away...

Dave's tractor had a nice one that was spoken for when I heard about it.

One day, on a lark... after giving up, I saw one on craigslist... contacted the guy and nothing...

About 10 days later he contacted me... said a family emergency came up and had to go out of State.

Anyway, he said he still had it and it was now in Hayward CA... I went to look at it and liked what I saw except no rear aux hydraulics for a thumb... decided I would wait and then I checked with curlydave and after that, decided I should get it...

No regrets so far.

They do show up and correspondingly seem to go fast here in the West Coast... found the same true when I was looking for my Dozers... just figure tractor owners are under represented here in the 9 Bay Area Counties...
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #115  
Have any of you done anything PTO intensive with a 110? I am seriously considering trying to find one, I just need to make sure it has enough PTO strength to run my stump grinder. My Massey is rated at 36.5 PTO HP, and there are times I could use more HP when grinding.

Thanks for pointing out the frame differences ... It makes me feel better about it NOT being just a 4x20 series with a subframe.

Also, anyone with a good cab on one? I need heat & a.c.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #116  
Have any of you done anything PTO intensive with a 110? I am seriously considering trying to find one, I just need to make sure it has enough PTO strength to run my stump grinder. My Massey is rated at 36.5 PTO HP, and there are times I could use more HP when grinding.

Thanks for pointing out the frame differences ... It makes me feel better about it NOT being just a 4x20 series with a subframe.

Also, anyone with a good cab on one? I need heat & a.c.

Steve (jenkinsph) has a crabbed, 110. He has probably used his 110 to work HD pto attachments as much, if not more than most of the 110 owner's here on TBN based upon his business.

I have worked my 110 with a couple of different roto-tillers (60" and 73") and baled hay with it, too. No problems with the JD660 tiller but the tractor didn't do so good with the 73" (60Hp min up to 90Hp) tiller.

No problem spinning my JD 336 hay baler, though. I used it for 2 hay seasons without a hiccup.

AKfish
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #117  
I was just looking at a couple pictures online of the 110 cabbed ... It looks like there might be issues with detaching the backhoe and using the 3pt.. Looks awful tight back there, and in a couple pics it looked like the cab was bolted to the backhoe frame
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else
  • Thread Starter
#118  
Are the backhoe buckets specific tk the 110 or are they interchangeable with other JD equipment?
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #119  
I was just looking at a couple pictures online of the 110 cabbed ... It looks like there might be issues with detaching the backhoe and using the 3pt.. Looks awful tight back there, and in a couple pics it looked like the cab was bolted to the backhoe frame


The rear glass section on a Laurin cab is mounted to the backhoe section. When you remove the backhoe this section stays on the hoe but you can move the rear glass back to the tractor to enclose the cab if you need to. There is an additional lower panel below the rear glass that goes on quickly too. You can choose to have either the backhoe or 3pt set up and have the cab enclosed, works pretty well imo. Takes an extra 5 minutes to remove/install the hoe with the cab in place but really isn't much difference that I can see.

Deciding whether to go with a cab unit or open station was a tough decision back in 2005. I ultimately decided to go for the cab because I was tired of the dust when working the tractors. After 10 years I can say it was a good choice for me. If I were to buy another compact tlb today I would get the cab again, for instance a Kubota M59 would need the after market cab just as the Deere 110 did. Open station or cab is a personal choice everyone can make for themselves but I don't see any complications with a cab being the issue.

The 110 is a 33hp pto tractor, implements need to fit this rating just like any other tractor it is what it is. Worked well enough with my MX6 brush mower, worked okay with the 673 tiller but was a load at times. Not having cruise was a bigger deal when tilling imo.

When I started getting busy I decided to get a second cabbed tractor that could share the implements I had. Bought the 4520 with 60 hp without the fel and rerouted all the hydraulics to the rear for 3 sets. Added topntilt to this tractor after seeing how well this worked on the 110 and steel weights. Also added the upgraded cruise which made tilling easier to do. I found that most jobs where I would be working for a week or so that having one tractor for the 3pt work and the other for the backhoe/loader work was simply more convenient for the small custom jobs.

All of that said, the point is a 110 will do a lot of work and is a good choice in its hp size just like a Kubota L45. If you need a larger tlb in a similar configuration a step up to the Kubota M59 is a good choice. I can tell you from my experience that the backhoe is big enough for my work but at times I could use a 120hp tractor to speed up the laser grading and field work. Very difficult if not impossible to do it all with one machine, but for most personal use I would choose a tlb for the best combination of uses if I only had one.
 
   / Used JD 110 vs everything else #120  
Are the backhoe buckets specific tk the 110 or are they interchangeable with other JD equipment?

The mini excavator buckets cross over with the 110 buckets. Can't remember which model excavator but it is about a 4 ton size, maybe a 27?
 

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