NX4510 HSTC Pricing

[MinnesotaEric]

Actually, the discussion was about NX4510 HSTC Pricing. holeycow simply ask why not the RX.

And the answer was that those tractor's frames are too big to wind through the woods. Allow me to demonstrate winding:

 

[gladehound]

And the answer was that those tractor's frames are too big to wind through the woods. Allow me to demonstrate winding:

I thought I told you to drive over them :laughing: BTW, I'm jealous of both your cab and your grapple! Negative 12F last nigh (that's not the wind chill).

 

[TSO]

I came in trolling for a minnow and caught a barracuda. It seems that the barracudas are quite touchy about their choices......almost insecure really.

More accurately, you came uninformed and lacking the adequate experience to make a relevant argument, and assumed that just because a machine might be larger, that it will be a better choice. Or, that because you have experience with, and prefer using, a certain kind of transmission... That another kind of transmission would be a poor choice, even in your limited range of experience. Even when others tried to educate you and provide relevant information that you were either unaware of, or too stubborn to admit to its efficacy, you passed on the opportunity to embrace common sense and instead hid behind your limited knowledge on the topic.

The simple fact remains that tractors are not built or featured to be a "one-size-fits-all" machine, and different sizes, weights, and transmission options (among other things) will benefit, or hinder, an operator depending on the required tasks.

Oh, nice job on your minnow/barracuda comment ... Speaks volumes. Looks like you came here just to be a troll and derail the thread after all. Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

 

[gladehound]

The simple fact remains that tractors are not built or featured to be a "one-size-fits-all" machine, and different sizes, weights, and transmission options (among other things) will benefit, or hinder, an operator depending on the required tasks.

I'm going to save this quote for the next time this topic comes up. We can just paste this in and be done with it!

 

[TSO]

I'm going to save this quote for the next time this topic comes up. We can just paste this in and be done with it!

Wouldn't that be nice if objective facts like this were all that was needed?

 

[holeycow]

More accurately, you came uninformed and lacking the adequate experience to make a relevant argument, and assumed that just because a machine might be larger, that it will be a better choice. Or, that because you have experience with, and prefer using, a certain kind of transmission... That another kind of transmission would be a poor choice, even in your limited range of experience. Even when others tried to educate you and provide relevant information that you were either unaware of, or too stubborn to admit to its efficacy, you passed on the opportunity to embrace common sense and instead hid behind your limited knowledge on the topic.

The simple fact remains that tractors are not built or featured to be a "one-size-fits-all" machine, and different sizes, weights, and transmission options (among other things) will benefit, or hinder, an operator depending on the required tasks.

Oh, nice job on your minnow/barracuda comment ... Speaks volumes. Looks like you came here just to be a troll and derail the thread after all. Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

I don't know what to say. You seem to be somewhat defensive from the get go.

You really haven't gotten my point from the beginning. You must have been through a few of these hst vs gear discussions.

This is quite childish and this time I am done.

 

[gladehound]

More accurately, you came uninformed and lacking the adequate experience to make a relevant argument, and assumed that just because a machine might be larger, that it will be a better choice. Or, that because you have experience with, and prefer using, a certain kind of transmission... That another kind of transmission would be a poor choice, even in your limited range of experience. Even when others tried to educate you and provide relevant information that you were either unaware of, or too stubborn to admit to its efficacy, you passed on the opportunity to embrace common sense and instead hid behind your limited knowledge on the topic.

The simple fact remains that tractors are not built or featured to be a "one-size-fits-all" machine, and different sizes, weights, and transmission options (among other things) will benefit, or hinder, an operator depending on the required tasks.

Oh, nice job on your minnow/barracuda comment ... Speaks volumes. Looks like you came here just to be a troll and derail the thread after all. Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

TSO - If you want threads like this to be resolved by objective facts then please start off with objective facts. Instead one of your early post was to tell holycow to go drive an HST and come back when he had something to contribute - not helpful. Holycow was just asking questions. Here again you continue to insult him. Makes no sense. What do you hope to accomplish (rhetorical)

I appreciate holycows contributions. The discussion made me think through this issue more than I had previously and I'm wiser for it.

 

[TSO]

TSO - If you want threads like this to be resolved by objective facts then please start off with objective facts. Instead one of your early post was to tell holycow to go drive an HST and come back when he had something to contribute - not helpful. Holycow was just asking questions. Here again you continue to insult him. Makes no sense. What do you hope to accomplish (rhetorical)

I appreciate holycows contributions. The discussion made me think through this issue more than I had previously and I'm wiser for it.

I can see how that could be taken as an insult, but that was not how I intended it. I had taken his initial comments prior to that as tongue in cheek and somewhat inflammatory...Was trying to head it off by saying to go try it then come back with actual experience, not assumptions. If I was misinterpreted then I apologize for not making it more clear.

 

[holeycow]

I can see how that could be taken as an insult, but that was not how I intended it. I had taken his initial comments prior to that as tongue in cheek and somewhat inflammatory...Was trying to head it off by saying to go try it then come back with actual experience, not assumptions. If I was misinterpreted then I apologize for not making it more clear.

Since I am a farmer and a professional forestry and, to a lesser extent dirtwork operations supervisor for many years (in some of the roughest country in western Canada), and have run various pieces briefly and regularly to the tune of many thousands of hours I take offence when someone(s) with obviously less considerable experience (obvious to me anyway, as it apparently is to others here) attempts to shut me down so rudely.

You seem incapable of believing that someone with considerable experience within and around many, many various pieces of real iron and agricultural equipment could possibly be able to have anything valid to offer here in this thread. Get real. That is your shortcoming, not mine.

I learned a few things here too. None of which came from you or those others with the same dismissive attitude. Only a few contributors to this thread could teach me anything about iron. THANKS to those guys. As it turns out, you and a couple of others are not them.

I am sorry about stooping to your(s) level at several points along the way. That is generally not my style.

This has become quite ridiculous and I am embarrassed to have been a part of it.

Sorry

Now kick me out again.

 

[TSO]

Since I am a farmer and a professional forestry and dirtwork operations supervisor for many years (in some of the roughest country in western Canada), and have run various pieces briefly to the tune of many thousands of hours I take offence when someone(s) with obviously less considerable experience (obvious to me anyway, as it apparently is to others here) attempts to shut me down so rudely.

I learned a few things here too. None of which has to do with equipment. Only a few contributors to this thread could teach me anything about iron. You and a couple of others are not them.

Sorry

Now kick me out again. Since I feel compelled to keep coming back.

Well, since you have zero experience with HST, especially in CUT form (the topic of conversation here) ... Your experience means next to nothing.

If this conversation was about forestry, or farming, or not having enough dignity or humility to admit that you're wrong ... Well, you'd be much more credible than most of us here.

What's this thread about again? Oh yeah, a new member looking for pricing on a HST CUT. Hmmmm ... Doesn't sound like your realm of expertise.

Which one of us happens to have meaningful experience in residential, light farming, and commercial landscaping applications with HST CUT'S? That would be me. And since I also owned a shuttle CUT, that also affords me the necessary experience to make relevant observations, PERTAINING TO THIS THREAD TOPIC.

Your experiences are just as valuable as everyone's else's, maybe more so because of your extent of experience ... But only when they are applied to a relevant topic.

Your ship keeps sinking further ... Will you ride it to the bottom? There's still room up here on the life raft.