Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled?

   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #11  
Could you point out the design differences between this leaf vac impeller, and a snow blower impeller?

http://www.odbparts.com/images/GV/2/GV21532-b.jpg

There must be something significant that I am missing.
The snowthrower impeller usually has fewer blades and is more open in the center. Also, the outer part pf the blades is shaped to scoop snow in. Both applications move semisolids, but only the vac relies on hi volume and speed of air movement. The vac impeller runs much faster to give hi suction and flow.
 
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   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #12  
The major difference between the vac and the 'thrower' is the impeller cage. The inlet of the vac is necked/throttled down to create suction via venturi effects. Not so with the snow 'blower'. As a result, the feed rate of the auger drives the 'throw-put' of the blower fan. The more snow you auger in, the more the blower fan behaves like the vac fan.
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #13  
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled?
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Shaft size looks small for a snow blower.
Dave m7040

Shaft size shouldn't have much influence on blower performance.

do you have some additional design information?
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #15  
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A couple of things:

The snow caster is filled by the forward motion of the implement carrier.

Friction and heat are created by the conveying of the snow by the cross
auger and the impeller in the case of a two stage unit creating resistance.

These crazy three stage units are a waste of money and I defy anyone to
explain away why they are better, THEY ARE NOT because of the inherent
inefficiency of the open cross auger design with the worm gear design.

Snow builds up in front of two stage snow casters simply because of the open auger
design(this does not occur with single stage snow casters-its in and out. IT pushes the
snow out in front of it at all times rather than meter a certain amount to the center of
the snow caster which is MOVING FORWARD.

A single or two stage snow caster will create a pressure gradient whether
it is full or not as air is being forced out of the chute, into the spout
and then out.

A single stage snow caster is more efficient as it removes the snow
ahead of it with one motion with higher torque delivered to the high
speed cross auger that conveys the snow to the center paddle where
it is ejected out of the chute and spout.

The open cross auger designed units are easier to build and cost less to build.

I am still waiting to see a two stage snow caster with a solid cross auger
like the old single stage units on old the cub cadets/simplicity tractors-post 1969
or a well built single stage front or rear mount.

The good snow blowers are single stage units with either a high speed cross auger
with ripping teeth in the single stage cross auger or the cross auger used for the
two stage units with Yamaha and BCS providing the best design in the home owner
market.


This method requires much more horsepower and torque but
The single stage four "scoop" single stage units with an ice and snow cutting propeller mounted in a wing plow cutting the snow into its smallest fraction making it easier to cast away.

I don't know where you are getting your information, you are talking about a snow thrower or caster, snowblowers are whole different animal. Are you just talking about a caster? There is a two stage snow blower and then there is a single stage snow thrower. The auger on a snowthrower collects and packs the snow a little as it moves it toward the chute and throws the snow out of the chute. The auger on a snowblower breaks up and fluffs the snow before it enters the impeller which blows the snow out of the chute. You will never see a snowthrower do this. (watch video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX14jLoHjmI
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #16  
Has anyone done a study of what goes on?

Seems like a blower should blow air if it's not filled with snow...but we all observe, this is not the case. Chutes choke...etc..

What would be the physics?

Are you asking about a two stage snow BLOWER or a single stage snow THROWER?
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #17  
Has anyone done a study of what goes on?

Seems like a blower should blow air if it's not filled with snow...but we all observe, this is not the case. Chutes choke...etc..

What would be the physics?

No study needed. Density.
Same reason a packed 1oz snowball goes further than 1 oz fluffy snow thrown from your open palm.
At full load/speed you are packing the snow into the auger. The impeller is then throwing a denser material at a given f/min.
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #18  
No study needed. Density.
Same reason a packed 1oz snowball goes further than 1 oz fluffy snow thrown rom your palm.
At full load/speed you are packing the snow into the auger.

Are you talking about a snow thrower or a snow blower?
 
   / Why do blowers do better on a full load tham when half filled? #20  
Are you talking about a snow thrower or a snow blower?
They are all throwers. Blower is a misnomer unless you go really slow in powder snow.
 

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