M59 Discussion Thread

   / M59 Discussion Thread #361  
Thanks bdog it was fun to see a 4 year old operating the M59!

While over in youtube land I wandered off on a different video from a guy who does custom mods. He mentioned modding his Grand L 5740, specifically fixing the exhaust stack so it does not blow on the loader (or in your face when working up front), and adding an air operator seat, both topics that have come up in connection with the M59. It turns out this guy is also on TractorByNet as 4shorts, a former member of the month evidently.
See Member of the Month: 4shorts - TractorByNet.com ? Compact Tractor Resource. Anyway, this is likely a place to look into if someone is interested in similar custom mods.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #362  
Just for the "fun" of it, I went on the Kubota website to "build" an M59.

It said to contact a dealer due to "limited availability".

Does anyone know if there is just a shortage of M59's being produced right now, or are they discontinuing this model? If that's the case, I hope they replace it with something like an updated version rather than get rid of the TLB like John Deere abandoned the 110 like they did.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #363  
Just for the "fun" of it, I went on the Kubota website to "build" an M59.

It said to contact a dealer due to "limited availability".

Does anyone know if there is just a shortage of M59's being produced right now, or are they discontinuing this model? If that's the case, I hope they replace it with something like an updated version rather than get rid of the TLB like John Deere abandoned the 110 like they did.

Hello Piston,
I tried the "Build Your Own" app and got the same result. Ditto for the L45 and L39. My guess is that the limited availability has to do with changes to its "Interim Tier IV" emission engine. We knew back in 2008 that "interim" meant we were lucky to get a legal old-fashioned, proven diesel engine but that the good old simple days couldn't last forever. So maybe it's time for a change. Since the M59 has the interim tier IV, maybe it's little brothers do to. They've all proven to be an exceptional family of hard workers. Maybe they'll even become classics.

Much as I'd like to see what Kubota does for the next act, I don't see any better family of medium size construction machinery out there.....nothing even close. Personally I'd buy the same M59 again today in spite of - or because of - it being vintage technology. And I'd be glad to get it. Nearly a decade of construction work later, ours has been a treat to work with. We're still patting ourselves on the back for buying it.

And BTW, thanks to Charles and TBN for this thread. They gave us the format for a long term road-test of the M59 in use. Potential owners couldn't do better than to read it clear through.

So what's next for Kubota? We can't stop progress...even if we'd sometimes like to. What features would you guys want to see on the next models? I'll start the ball rolling by saying I'd not change anything about the way the M59 works. But would surely give it an upright exhaust pipe, and switch the hand brake to the right side of the seat. Those are small things for sure, but still nice improvements.
Good Luck to us all,
rScotty
 
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   / M59 Discussion Thread #364  
Kubota is big around here, but I've only actually seen two M59's in person. Strange, since it's the only construction grade TLB (in current production) that can be moved without a CDL. There are quite a few well used Deere 110's around. They're very popular with plumbing companies, but I wonder about the lack of the stronger M59's. Maybe it's the color? :confused3:

I don't own an M59, but I've run one a few times. It's a strong machine. I'd change the front tires to 12-16.5's. Anything with a loader that strong deserves the added floatation and stronger sidewalls. Of course, a factory cab option is a no-brainer...at least to everyone but Kubota.
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #365  
Hi Scotty,
Thanks for the comments. It's interesting to hear from the long term owners. I do think your probably overdue for posting some working photos of your M59 though. :D


Things I'd like to see on the M59:
-Brakes moved over to the left (nit picking here)
-15 more PTO hp (for heavy work like stumpgrinding)
-E-PTO option (for lighter work like mowing)
-FACTORY CAB OPTION


I am really curious to hear from any of you M59 owners about how you like the M59 as a tractor, as far as using 3 point implements. I really don't use the backhoe all that often but I use most everything in my signature pretty regularly. Unlike many, I think I'd rarely have the backhoe on.

Being that it has an "M" designation, does that mean it's in the M family of Kubota tractors? From the specs, it seems like it's bigger than the L's, but I assumed it was more of an L series tractor just because it had HST?

Looking at the dimensions online, it says the width is 75". Is that the actual width of the rear tires, or is that because the outriggers stick out past the rear tires, and they are measuring the widest point? (this is ignoring the fact that it has an 84" bucket)
The ground clearance is listed as 18". However I think that is without the FEL frame. What's the actual ground clearance underneath all that frame work?

If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'm not sure if I would buy an M59, or a NH T4.75, but it would be one of those. :D On the other hand, if the T4.75 (or M7060) offered an HST+ option, that could be enticing as well. It's hard to tell the actual size difference without seeing them in person.


Lastly, are the 2015 M59's still Interim Tier 4? or are they full blown Tier 4?



...AND FOR GOD SAKES, WOULD YOU GUYS POST SOME MORE DAM GRAPPLE PICTURES WITH THE M59! :D

Here is one of my favorite photos from the "Grapple Pic" thread: (complements of TBarD)
colorado-Grapple1.jpg
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #366  
If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'm not sure if I would buy an M59, or a NH T4.75, but it would be one of those. :D On the other hand, if the T4.75 (or M7060) offered an HST+ option, that could be enticing as well. It's hard to tell the actual size difference without seeing them in person. >

If you win the lottery tomorrow you might as well buy the M59 and a NH T4.75. Lol
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #367  
Kubota is big around here, but I've only actually seen two M59's in person. Strange, since it's the only construction grade TLB (in current production) that can be moved without a CDL. There are quite a few well used Deere 110's around. They're very popular with plumbing companies, but I wonder about the lack of the stronger M59's. Maybe it's the color? :confused3:

I don't own an M59, but I've run one a few times. It's a strong machine. I'd change the front tires to 12-16.5's. Anything with a loader that strong deserves the added floatation and stronger sidewalls. Of course, a factory cab option is a no-brainer...at least to everyone but Kubota.

I considered an M59 when I was looking for something larger than my BX and L...

The M59 almost seemed to big in the crowded Dealer lot... about the same time I found a Deere 110 with 3 backhoe buckets, quick attach loader and pallet forks and front aux remotes... it made more sense just on cost alone for me at the time...

It's a tough niche market to come in under 10,000 pounds for transport limitations...
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #368  
The availability is still being affected by the Long Beach port problems from a few months back. A lot of unfinished Kubotas were floating around on container ships the last time I spoke with my local dealer a few weeks ago. The M59 engine & chassis, possibly loader too, come in from Japan in a container which then goes to the Georgia plant where US made tires, backhoe, hoses and electrical go into final assembly and gives some Americans a steady job. If a guy just wants the B part of the hoe to look at in your driveway without the rest of the M59TL part you could probably get one in a week. My dealer said there was no word on when this would get caught up yet and after he sold the last one in the PNW a couple months ago nobody can find a new one for sale. If a guy was looking at one now, used at a lower price would be the way to go, especially with the emissions stuff coming up. I was contacted by a member here with questions about my M59, so I will just copy the reply I sent him into here for other potential buyers to read as well.

I have no idea what other machines out there these days can do, but I know I don't really care. :)

The things I can say about the M59 from experience are as follows.
General thoughts: It is a very stable machine with loaded rear tires and the hoe on. When you switch out to lighter 3pt stuff you have to be a lot more careful as it can get pretty tippy. It is a beast of a machine for it's size and very reliable. 14 gallons of fuel will typically get me 14-16 hrs of operating time, but I also rarely run the throttle over 1500rpm for backhoe work as that seems the best balance of power/fuel usage that also doesn't sound very loud. The M59 isn't like the smaller tractors that have no power until you bump them up against the governor, it has plenty of power between 1500-2000 rpm. The HST works extremely well with plenty of grunt. I can load a full bucket going into a soft dirt/rock pile in medium gear/low range no problem. I do my bulldozing/groundbreaking in low/low and most of my rolling around with a loaded bucket in high/low or high/high unless I hit a steep grade, then it is medium/high. Having six gears to choose from is very handy, the auto shift from low/high range in each of the three gears is very nice. The creep feature is very handy for backhoe work. The rear remotes are very handy for the wood splitter, hydraulic back blade, top n tilt, etc. The front remotes are great for the grapple, and worked the splitter fine the one time I tested it but I have not tried anything else with it yet. In winter when it is windy is about the only time I wish I had a cab, but the rest of the time I find it would just get in my way with all of the hopping on/off and switching the seat front/back. I am still on my original glowplugs and battery since 2009 when I received this 2008 machine with 69 hrs on it. I now have 1040 hrs on it.

Design: There is just enough room for my size 14's to go whereever they need to in any position while seated and my 36" inseam legs have no issues with room either. I couldn't see myself getting by with a smaller machine, but I don't find myself wanting a bigger one either. I don't see where 10 more horsepower would help me in any way other than to burn more fuel, the turbo powered 59hp motor gets the job done just fine with the stall guard turned on. The filters are all easy to get to and change, nothing in a goofy or hard to reach spot. The grease zerks are all logically placed/protected, the hydraulics are all pretty safe other than the last hoses for the hydraulic thumb on the hoe, but one learns quickly he should not be bumping into trees to hit them anyhow. The turning radius is very tight, the 4wd works great, the diff lock helps when needed and the balance, visibility and layout of controls are all just about perfect.

Backhoe: I probably have the hoe on 80-90% of the time as with the hydraulic thumb it is very useful around my place with taking down/moving/lifting/planting trees, pulling brush, digging up stumps, mining gravel, breaking down/shaping clay mounds for loading, picking up engines, trenching, backfilling, leveling, packing, extracting yourself from a risky spot, recovering stuck vehicles, etc. I could come up with a lot more I have used it for, but that is a good start. For a machine that weighs less than 40% of what the big hoes do, it will do about 80% of the same jobs just a little slower. The quick change bucket works very well, I just don't have any other buckets for it yet. The 18" I do have seems just about perfect 90% of the time, not too wide, not too skinny, not too heavy. The 12' reach is pretty darn useful and with the creep I very rarely wish I had an extend a hoe option. The hoe is strong enough to lift the rear end with just the front bucket edge on the ground, shifting left/right is no problem if 2/3 extended or less. Once you know what you are doing, removing the hoe is about a 3 minute job, hooking back up is about 5. Hooking up 3pt stuff takes much longer than the hoe, but is not too bad for the versatility it provides. Having an industrial grade machine that can do farm tasks is much better for me than a farm machine that struggles at industrial tasks.

Loader: There are some things it just can't do like pick up more than 4,500 lbs, but it is very rare that I find myself in a spot where I need anything bigger or stronger. I can load full height dump trucks from ground level to the truck tires, though if it has extended walls it is a little tricky if you can't dump the air on the rear suspension. The 7 foot bucket will easily load 2/3 yd on a struck bucket and almost a full yard when piled up. There is nothing I have loaded in a heaping bucket that the loader won't lift, so it is very strong. I can stab two 1400 lb round bales with pallet forks and take them off of a trailer, but not lift them due to how far out in front they hang and the weight of the forks. Since acquiring a square bale spear (3 spear) this year I can lift two 1400 lb square hay bales stacked on each other without any trouble at all. I can just barely pick up the front of my 8500lb solid axle pickup with the forks when I need to. Fully loaded pallets are no problem to lift. The quick attach works perfect with every skidsteer mount implement I have run across so far and is adjustable for the pieces that are out of spec. I am considering a bulldozer blade, auger and a few other goodies in the future as the options seem wide open.

The 41 hp pto has plenty of power to run my 8" wood chipper but that is all I have for it so far. I am debating on a snowblower one of these days if I can find the right deal on a lorenz.

Over all, I can say this machine is perfect for my needs and the few times it seems like it might not work, I find that a little creativity goes a long ways. It still surprises me sometimes at the things I can do with such a light backhoe, the just under 10k weight allows me to go places without sinking/sticking myself nearly as easy as a 25k machine would. I love being able to haul the M59 around with a flatbed one ton dually and a 30' gooseneck trailer so I look like a farmer rather than a commercial rig, even though my setup is technically over 26k. A lighter truck and trailer would fix that, but a 30' deck lets me bring in more hay in one shot and haul a crewcab longbed comfortably. I can load the M59 up front on the trailer and then use the hoe to load my hydraulic backblade onto the trailer behind it and still not have the ramps movement interfered with. The M59 would fit on a 22-24' deck just fine, maybe even shorter if a guy had it set up right. If I were to use it for a business I would look into either a tandem dual dump trailer big enough to carry the m59 in the box or a dumpbed on my truck with a shorter/lighter flatbed trailer. Kubota hit it out of the park with this design and it is slowly catching on in popularity, though why it took so long I have no idea. My local dealer just sold the last one available in the pacific northwest a couple months back and they have no idea when more will get delivered with the long beach port fiasco a while back keeping a bunch of them floating offshore. The engine and chassis are all made in japan, then the assembly with the rubber, hoses, hoe and electrical wiring are done at the plant in Georgia which keeps a lot of Americans working.

I can't really think of anything else at the moment, but I can't say anything bad about this machine that it's size/weight would justify and I highly recommend it. The M59 is a machine I swear by, not at.

Thanks,
Tim
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #369  
I can't really think of anything else at the moment, but I can't say anything bad about this machine that it's size/weight would justify and I highly recommend it. The M59 is a machine I swear by, not at.

Thanks,
Tim

EXCELLENT POST!

Tim,
Thank you for taking the time to write all that up, you certainly put a lot of effort into that reply! :thumbsup:

I think you answered all the questions I had, without even having to ask some of them :laughing:

Reading through your review, it sparked a few more questions that I have for any of you M59 operators.

Do you get much HST "whine" with the HST+?

For others that use the tractor without the hoe, how heavy of an implement do you find you need on the back for it to feel very well planted? I bought most all my implements with the intention of getting a bigger tractor one day, so most of them are pretty heavy, the ones I use most are between 1k and 1450lbs, still not near the weight of the hoe though.


Thanks again Tim, best review I've read yet. :drink:
 
   / M59 Discussion Thread #370  
New M59 owner here! Bought it brand new from the dealer lot in May. It's my first TLB (and first T for that matter) so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I love it! It's like a big kid: Still figuring out its place in life, stronger than it looks, and eats like a teenager.

I'll try to get pictures up soon, but first the story of how we met. I was looking for a large tractor/small TLB and went to a used lot near me. Looked like every piece of equipment there was puking hydra. For grins I decided to stop at the Ditch Witch next door since they use to have a small TLB (competitor to the Terramite). I noticed they had a BX TLB, but right next to it was the M59 (they also sold Kubota construction/TLB equipment). I can honestly say it was a love at first site moment. I left without talking to anyone and started looking up info on the machine. I woke up the next morning thinking about it and after lunch with a friend (and stopping by the local Kubota dealership who said I was a day late and dollar short as they couldn't find ANY new ones since about 9 months ago) I finally worked up the nerve to call the dealer to see how much it was going to hurt. He offered it for $48,500 (28 hours on the meter) but wanted me to rent it for a month first. I agreed, but after issues for insurance while renting came up we just agreed to go through with the purchase. I don't regret it for a second.

Which brings me to some problems I've been having. The TLB was base so there's no front or rear hydraulics. A week before I bought it I asked the dealer to see if they could source the kits but haven't had any luck. I know everythingattachments.com has a front kit, but how close is that to the factory? Does anyone know of a rear hydraulic kit?

So far I've used it to clear a 12' path through the woods, push back overgrowth, and dig out some boulders. Rain and life have kept me from wrecking the rest of the property, lol

-Daniel

BTW, thanks a lot for making this post! It's been a lot of great information.
 

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