What's a Used BX25D Worth?

[flienlow]

I have a 2015 BX25D that I am interested in Selling.

Add ons:
land pride grapples w/ 3rd function valve,
3pt hitch
backhoe thumb
bucket hooks.

Tractor has about 40 hours on it.

grapples are naturally scratched up from use, and tractor has some light brush scuffs.

Looking for opinion on a good asking price and perhaps trade in?

I think I am in the tractor about $19500 total.

 

[murphy1244]

What happened?? The thing is your going to go up against new at 0% for 60 month plan.

 

[flienlow]

What happened?? The thing is your going to go up against new at 0% for 60 month plan.

Let's just say that I find it to be very disappointing and probably should have bought a red colored tractor to begin with.

 

[murphy1244]

Let's just say that I find it to be very disappointing and probably should have bought a red colored tractor to begin with.

Sorry to hear that and I wish you well. Can you transfer the 0% loan??

 

[flienlow]

That is an interesting thought. I can call Kubota Credit and find out.

 

[murphy1244]

That is an interesting thought. I can call Kubota Credit and find out.

That would help you sell it for sure.

 

[Jonohio]

Let's just say that I find it to be very disappointing and probably should have bought a red colored tractor to begin with.

Please do elaborate, is like to understand your frustrations as I'm looking at purchasing a bx25d.

Jonathon

 

[flienlow]

Please do elaborate, is like to understand your frustrations as I'm looking at purchasing a bx25d.

Jonathon

Ok, I will tell you. But please understand, this is MY opinion. I know there are websites out there with many loyalists that scoff at ANY negative orange comment.
About me,I don't claim to be an expert, but I have operated everything from Lawn Mowers to twin engine Aircraft. In the Heavy equipment world, Craftsman riders to Cat 245 hoes and D-8 dozers. I have hundreds of hours on (the most in fact) on sub 30 hp tractors/ many of them Kubota. I say this to point out that it's not like I have never been on one before. Take it for what its worth.

Now then. IMO The BX25 is basically a lawn mower on Steroids as it is not built like a true tractor. Its a great wheel barrow, but I find it falls short on doing any real work. You need to High rev the engine just to move the loader which I find to be very weak and lethargic on all fronts. It doesn't have enough power to "curl you " out of being stuck. Nor do I find it to have a good power down, I also wished it lifted just a little bit higher. Having the grapple, I will say that I would not buy it again either.(opt for something that attaches to the bucket and clamps.)
The tractor in general doesn't have enough girth to it and has little traction in general. The front tires are Way to small,they don't grip and there simply is not enough lug on them to be useful. Did I mention they constantly leak air?
The tractor is also very tippy, This can be addressed with wheel spacers but was something I didn't notice while looking at them. Another big thing for me is the lack of dual brakes for steering. It's haunted me a few times.
I find the seat great but the hardware is...well junk. I keep having to bend the tabs back in order for it to lock, the safety switches are mounted flimsy and I needed to mod them with double sided tape. I wish the arm rests were bigger too. I find that I really wish it had a tilt steering column, and the diff lock pedal is completely stupid and difficult to use. I have had lots of starting issues and to this day it has a bad fuel shutoff solenoid that needs to be replaced. (hasnt had the first oil change yet.)
I keep reading where this tractor "sips" fuel, but to me it seems to chug it down.
The backhoe is fine, but I am not fan of the outriggers (small and short)
On the dealer lot paint was flaking off and there was rust stains present.
If you want to buy bark and haul it around a flat yard, its great. If you need to put in some sprinkler line, it will work.
When I bought this, I knew that it wasn't a perfect tractor. However, I thought I was buying the same Quality of Kubota grandad did. Its not. Now that I own one, I notice more and more posts on Kubota issues. Kubota is not Toyota and I feel the company is a bit arrogant with what they produce now with a seeming lapse in quality. This is not a first rev tractor, and it should be much more refined and tweaked.

If I had to do it all over again, I would probably buy either the GC1720 or Max26. - Its not likely I would buy a Kubota again. You may very well have an entirely different experience. Good luck.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Wow!! I've bought 17 or 18 new Kubotas in 12 years from two BX1500s up to a L3240. I hate that my current BX25D-1, my second BX25, keeps rolling after I let off the pedal. I even owned the "problem" BXxx50 series, a BX2350. I did not lot drive/try my current BX25D-1 purchase before I bought it since I have come to depend on Kubota quality and dealer service but I will all future purchases. This BX25D-1 has not performed to my satisfaction due to the one roll on issue. I traded in a B2620 FEL BH for it and it does not have as much power as the B2620 but I expected a smaller, lower powered, less expensive machine to have less performance which is a point that never seemed to enter your mind and it should have with all the experience you've had or say you've had with machinery. I guess I'm saying I don't believe your post is genuine and has almost no credibility with your alleged experience and claimed vast knowledge and then notice some issues that any first time buyer would have seen or known about in a 10 minute test drive on a dealers lot. Your post appears totally made up from snippets of many disgruntled buyers of maybe several different machines. Some of your complaints are ludicrous to be written down as complaints for a sub compact tractor and to say it's anything but a tractor leads me to believe you've never driven one or hate your local Kubota dealer so bad that you'll "make up" stories. We have a few non Kubota owners that troll the Kubota site making snide remarks from time to time and those of us that have owned several and some times only one Kubota know when it's a "personal" vendetta against someone and not the machine. Don't believe you. Again, claiming such vast experience and knowledge and then complain about such lack of meeting your expectations makes no sense, non. I doubt your entire story, don't believe you've owned what you say and don't believe you currently own a Kubota. Also to act like you want to sell an item, any item, and then tell how bad it is so extensively indicates your lack of credibility or your lack of knowledge in buying/selling skills.:shocked:

 

[flienlow]

Wow!! I've bought 17 or 18 new Kubotas in 12 years from two BX1500s up to a L3240. I hate that my current BX25D-1, my second BX25, keeps rolling after I let off the pedal. I even owned the "problem" BXxx50 series, a BX2350. I did not lot drive/try my current BX25D-1 purchase before I bought it since I have come to depend on Kubota quality and dealer service but I will all future purchases. This BX25D-1 has not performed to my satisfaction due to the one roll on issue. I traded in a B2620 FEL BH for it and it does not have as much power as the B2620 but I expected a smaller, lower powered, less expensive machine to have less performance which is a point that never seemed to enter your mind and it should have with all the experience you've had or say you've had with machinery. I guess I'm saying I don't believe your post is genuine and has almost no credibility with your alleged experience and claimed vast knowledge and then notice some issues that any first time buyer would have seen or known about in a 10 minute test drive on a dealers lot. Your post appears totally made up from snippets of many disgruntled buyers of maybe several different machines. Some of your complaints are ludicrous to be written down as complaints for a sub compact tractor and to say it's anything but a tractor leads me to believe you've never driven one or hate your local Kubota dealer so bad that you'll "make up" stories. We have a few non Kubota owners that troll the Kubota site making snide remarks from time to time and those of us that have owned several and some times only one Kubota know when it's a "personal" vendetta against someone and not the machine. Don't believe you. Again, claiming such vast experience and knowledge and then complain about such lack of meeting your expectations makes no sense, non. I doubt your entire story, don't believe you've owned what you say and don't believe you currently own a Kubota. Also to act like you want to sell an item, any item, and then tell how bad it is so extensively indicates your lack of credibility or your lack of knowledge in buying/selling skills.:shocked:

And we have our first butt hurt Kubota owner. Look,I don't care if you believe me or not, I couldn't care less. I couldn't care less of if you have bought every Kubota Model from your local Dealer (I don't have issues with my local dealer btw.) And you can Go buy a thousand more Kubota's. Enjoy them. This post was started as feeler to gauge the value of a slightly use tractor that I am interested in Selling. Jonohio was curious as to why I don't like it so I told him. If you cant accept that, that is on you.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

I sell the things, and there is merit to what he said. The guy was simply not sold the right tractor. A BX25 is not a bull-dozer and does not have power like a larger tractor does. He simply should have been sold something like a B2301TLB which is nearly the same footprint but with more tractory feeling for a guy with decades in the seat.

That said, I think your price is high. I retail them for about that. Pricing is regional though, you'll find a buyer about $1500 less than what the going cash price is in your area.

You can not transfer the 0% loan. There is no mention of how long you have had it, but if its been less than 90 days or so Kubota can be pretty flexible about letting you move into a bigger tractor and undo your current transaction. That's a case by case basis though, no promises.

 

[flienlow]

I sell the things, and there is merit to what he said. The guy was simply not sold the right tractor. A BX25 is not a bull-dozer and does not have power like a larger tractor does. He simply should have been sold something like a B2301TLB which is nearly the same footprint but with more tractory feeling for a guy with decades in the seat.

That said, I think your price is high. I retail them for about that. Pricing is regional though, you'll find a buyer about $1500 less than what the going cash price is in your area.

You can not transfer the 0% loan. There is no mention of how long you have had it, but if its been less than 90 days or so Kubota can be pretty flexible about letting you move into a bigger tractor and undo your current transaction. That's a case by case basis though, no promises.

There was a reason why I didn't go with a B Series although I cannot recall what It was. At the time I wanted TLB + mower and grapple. There was some reason why I couldn't get all that together.

 

[dodge man]

I'm sorry to say you are probably going to take a hit on selling it. I'd say more than a 10% hit, maybe as much as 25%, hard to say. A lot of people will just want to buy new so you will have to discount it some.

As far as your complaints, some of its opinion, some of its probably real. I get your complaints, some people like things a certain way. I think the biggest problem is that someone that has run larger equipment, the BX series seems like a toy. To someone like me that was using a shovel and a wheel barrow, its seems like a more than adequate machine. The only thing I would really disagree on would be the fuel consumption. I was mowing with a gas powered riding mower and after I got my BX I noticed it was using much less fuel than my old rider. I think a larger machine is what it's probably going to take to make you happy.

 

[Fiziksgeek]

I'm a Massey owner, not kubota, and it seems to me this is just a typical case of buyers remorse. The tractor did not live up to expectations, and then it's easy to start nit picking every little thing. IMO, The Massey GC is superior to the Kubota BX, but not by a lot, and Kubota has more/better implements/attachments/aftermarket than Massey does for sure.

My recommendation is that if the kubota Bx didn't do what you wanted, any similar size tractor, regardless of brand, probably will not either. Go up in size. That will of course have trade offs, increased size/weight/price.

 

[murphy1244]

You can't compare gas versus Diesel in fuel consumption as my 41 hp diesel uses less fuel than my 23 hp gas Simplicity did.

 

[flienlow]

The Massey GC is superior to the Kubota BX, but not by a lot, and Kubota has more/better implements/attachments/aftermarket than Massey does for sure.
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Exactly! That was my pain point. I did not have a Massey Dealer within 100 miles of me when I bought, AND Massey Didn't have any GC1720s within 4 states of me at that time. I also committed to buying a GC1720 over the phone and after the dealer took all my personal information for Finance,they called me back 1/2hr later and told me they sold it to some guy that just walked in. I basically said Fine, I will buy the Kubota then since that was the last tractor in the area.

 

[4570Man]

I have never used a Kubota BX, but I have spent several hours on a very similar JD. IMO these size tractors just aren't made to be real work horses. They are more like a tough lawn mower. I agree with the OP on everything except fuel consumption.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I have never used a Kubota BX, but I have spent several hours on a very similar JD. IMO these size tractors just aren't made to be real work horses. They are more like a tough lawn mower. I agree with the OP on everything except fuel consumption.

I have used a Kubota BX. Several of them. They are real workhorses or mine have been and been using one today as a real workhorse. Now the next size up, the B series is a bit more of a workhorse and used several of them. The L series is even a bigger, tougher workhorse and only owned/used one of them. To say they compare to a lawnmower which I to have owned several over the years is foolish. I use Kubota Fs and Zs for mowing my yards and don't even have mowing decks on my Bs or BXs over the past 7 or 8 years. I have almost 6 hillside acres that was treed, gullied and rocky and I used the workhorse features of my BX2200, B7800, L3240, B3200, B2320, BX2350, BX2660, BX25 #1, B2620 FEL BH and BX25 #2 and the others. I pushed them to what I didn't think they would do and they just kept on going. Just my experience actually using the machines. No, they are not track loaders or bull dozers and to expect such is again foolish. They do usually run out of traction before they run out of power
Maybe we have different definition of workhorse but sure we see lawn mower the same..

 

[Bota4me]

I have used a Kubota BX. Several of them. They are real workhorses or mine have been and been using one today as a real workhorse. Now the next size up, the B series is a bit more of a workhorse and used several of them. The L series is even a bigger, tougher workhorse and only owned/used one of them. To say they compare to a lawnmower which I to have owned several over the years is foolish. I use Kubota Fs and Zs for mowing my yards and don't even have mowing decks on my Bs or BXs over the past 7 or 8 years. I have almost 6 hillside acres that was treed, gullied and rocky and I used the workhorse features of my BX2200, B7800, L3240, B3200, B2320, BX2350, BX2660, BX25 #1, B2620 FEL BH and BX25 #2 and the others. I pushed them to what I didn't think they would do and they just kept on going. Just my experience actually using the machines. No, they are not track loaders or bull dozers and to expect such is again foolish. They do usually run out of traction before they run out of power Maybe we have different definition of workhorse but sure we see lawn mower the same..

if they are just tough lawn mowers than its the BEST lawnmower in the universe. I log with it, dug piers for footings, 500' of drainage pipe. Moved about 40 yards of dirt ,stone. Oh ya and mow my 2 acres every week. Lol

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

if they are just tough lawn mowers than its the BEST lawnmower in the universe. I log with it, dug piers for footings, 500' of drainage pipe. Moved about 40 yards of dirt ,stone. Oh ya and mow my 2 acres every week. Lol

So, what did you do with it the second week you owned it? :laughing: Looks like you "worked" it to me and obviously you. Believe there are thousands of us that have used, not sold them for a living, that will say they are able to "work". Some people think they have to justify themselves for getting rid of something but they don't. Should just fess up they screwed up and bought the wrong machine for the jobs they have without trying to degrade the inanimate object that others were a bit wiser and researched their options, income and needs and came up with the right machine. I picked the wrong machine my first time and it wasn't the machines fault, it was my fault because I thought it was a high priced lawnmower wit a high priced wheelbarrow on the front. It was a BX2200 FEL MMM 12 years ago and it was awesome having come from box store lawn mowers. I bought the wrong Kubota so in a year returned to Barlows and traded it to a B7800 FEL and BX1500 MMM. Worked those two (no longer expecting one machine to be great at all things) for three years doing an incredible amount of land excavating/landscaping and continued trading often after that as job needs changed and money availability and just because I like trading in some cases.
BX workhorse? Yes, but not as capable as a bigger, heavier machine like a bigger B which isn't as capable as a bigger heavier L3240 and I never expected the BX to be but after my first purchase I started researching to help determine the right choice for my needs which are ever changing.