O my, I am comfused

[Ooklaa]

2 machines arent going to happen. not for 3 acres thats is a total waste of money in my eyes.

 

[4570Man]

2 machines arent going to happen. not for 3 acres thats is a total waste of money in my eyes.

Two machines are not a waste of money. After a season of dealing with the PITA MMM mower, and tearing up your yard, you will agree.

 

[jenkinsph]

If money is the issue run a gas line to your house and forget the wood, tractor and grapple. If what you want is a tractor to play with then go for it that is what most here have done, including myself. Food service is a tough business and anyone that has spent the time in this endeavor should be able to choose what they want to do in their free time.

Twenty three pages now and very little information to go on. Just my opinion but a beautiful lawn is pleasant to keep up with long term while firewood cutting and splitting piles of wood gets old fast.

 

[gladehound]

Greeting Glade,

1. Nikko has said numerous times he wants to log his small woods for wood for burning . . So he will be able to choose his log sizes.

He also talked about getting logs delivered and my friend who get's logs delivered doesn't get to choose size. Nikko's situation may be different.

2. My bucket weighs 155 pounds on my gc1715. When I quick detach it I lose that 155 pounds. When I get my mini grapple and i quick attach it, I will gain 80 pounds thus My loader will have an additional 75 pounds of carrying capacity . . not a minus 200 pounds. The grapple manufacturer I will purchase from specializes in scut products and more specifically fel addons. Bulk steel is the weakest choice per pound and the cheapest to manufacture with. But there are a series of much higher strength steels that cost more per pound but require significantly less weight for the strength ratio. Thatvis specifically why SSQA based implements should be less desireable for scut owners or small compact owners IMO. Skidsteer requirements are far different than scut needs.

I was not aware of these specialize SCUT products. In my world, SSQA grapples run from ~500 pounds on the low side to over 1000 pounds. I assumed there were some lighter ones for SCUTs but didn't realize they were that light. Thanks for the education.

3. I'm a bit baffled by your statement that most scuts use cat 0 implements. I personally drove 4 models of bx, 3 models of yanmar scuts, 2 models of mahindra scuts, 3 models of massey scuts, and none of them used cat 0. They all used cat 1. In adfition I looked at several 3pt quick attach choices that were all cat 1 and they all would fiton my 3pt.. I did see a Simplicity mower/with fel and 3 pt. That used cat 0, but that was the only one. I have a cat 1 sprayer and a cat 1 trailer mover and a cat 1 fork set that all work perfectly on my massey gc1715.

Thanks for listening.

I didn't realize SCUTs moved away from Cat 0. I looked at them back in 2005 and I thought they were all either Cat 0 or had Cat 1 with smaller than normal range of motion.

 

[gladehound]

Two machines are not a waste of money. After a season of dealing with the PITA MMM mower, and tearing up your yard, you will agree.

I second this response and will add that if you come to this conclusion, you will kick yourself for getting the Swiss Army knife SCUT instead of something heavier. But you should probably get your mower first and then save up for the tractor.

 

[Carl_NH]

If money is the issue run a gas line to your house and forget the wood, tractor and grapple. If what you want is a tractor to play with then go for it that is what most here have done, including myself. Food service is a tough business and anyone that has spent the time in this endeavor should be able to choose what they want to do in their free time.

Twenty three pages now and very little information to go on. Just my opinion but a beautiful lawn is pleasant to keep up with long term while firewood cutting and splitting piles of wood gets old fast.

I agree.. Ooklaa I could sell you my 520 hour Kubota B21 TLB with a Thumb to pick up those log lengths and include the hydraulic wood splitter too in your price range for under $20K.

 

[Ooklaa]

Like I said I might buy a compact instead of a sub compact.

Axle I called the guy from the link you sent me. Cool guy and something to read up on.

I guess we shall see going tomorrow to see some more machines.

 

[Carl_NH]

OoKlaa,

The B21 is a compact TLB that weighs about 4000 Lbs, and would do everything you need, and then some, except mow the grass.

My wife claims I have selective listening, so I guess we are similar.

 

[TomSeller]

OoKlaa,

The B21 is a compact TLB that weighs about 4000 Lbs, and would do everything you need, and then some, except mow the grass.

My wife claims I have selective listening, so I guess we are similar.

I just bought a used B21 for an "around the house" tractor. Good little unit, but not a lawn mower.

 

[AxleHub]

I've been reading ever so often how big is better and "ya'll want bigger later so get it now".

All my life I've heard that and seldom did it prove true. Its much more logical to "get what you need" instead.

This afternoon I was working the GC1715. So here are a couple numbers of reality to consider.

As you all know . . I have a dl95 loader and I acquired a quick attach from

Tach-N-Go + INNOVATIVE ATTACHMENTS

I also acquired a set of very well built forks that work on the fel or on the 3pt.
The 3 pt. use can carry heavier and the fel use allows me to reach higher.

So I hauled some heavy pallet loads today of landscaping block and edgers using my dl95 loader on the gc1715 with the bucket off and quick attach and forks on fel. Now I've read alot of numbers posters say a scut can haul but here is what my scut actually haul under tough terrain situations.

48 edgers plus pallet and forks and quick attach. Menards specifications for these edgers are 6" × 24" × 2" and they are 18 pounds each.

So we multiply 48 x 18 and we get 864 pounds. Now this was on hills I was moving them as well. My back wheels never tipped up or lost traction and I had no accessory weight on the rear . . Just me and my loaded tires.

Now this was full hydraulic lift . . I had to be at 3000 rpm to lift the load properly (standard for gc1715). I could not lift it higher than 3 inches at 2600 rpm and I could not have carried more and still lifted it at 3000rpm. However it lifted and manuevered fine even on 15 degree inclines going up the hill and down the other side.

Whats my point? Numbers not guesses. How many times have we read 500 pounds is a scut's payload. AND this was spread across the pallet not stacked close to the pivot. I probably could have carried several more if I had just stacked them close to the pivot point . . but I wanted real life numbers instead of faked numbers.

The weight of my forks is just under 100 pounds plus pallet weight. my bucket is 155 so in my bucket I could easily carry 800 pounds because its closer to the pivot point as well.

Just imagine my forks can handle over 1150 pounds on my 3 pt. . . Again because they are built for scut use not SSQA type plain steel concepts.

Again my point is "get what you need" .

Thanks for listening