Tractor Sizing How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift?

   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #221  
Why is it that some SCUT owners feel the need to act like their tractor is way more capable than what it is? There have been many members that have been miss led into buying a SCUT by these types of post.

Because its fun :) Why do people climb mountains? Why do people jump out of airplanes? What a silly thing to complain about....I dont think a single person is dumb enough to be missled into buying a SCUT because someone is happy to post their SCUT exceeded their own expectations.

I for one am tickled pink that my tractor has exceeded everything I expected of it-everything. She is my swiss army knife of anything I own or have owned.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #222  
Once you go SCUT you never go CUT!
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #223  
Because its fun :) Why do people climb mountains? Why do people jump out of airplanes? What a silly thing to complain about....I dont think a single person is dumb enough to be missled into buying a SCUT because someone is happy to post their SCUT exceeded their own expectations.

I for one am tickled pink that my tractor has exceeded everything I expected of it-everything. She is my swiss army knife of anything I own or have owned.

It's fun to act like your tractor is more capable than it is? That's a lot different than climbing a mountain. One is fooling yourself, the other is an accomplishment.


Once you go SCUT you never go CUT!

Why do you want to turn this thread into some sort of competition, or game/joke? This was unnecessary stirring of the pot. It's also the kind of stuff that gets threads shut down.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #224  
It's fun to act like your tractor is more capable than it is? That's a lot different than climbing a mountain. One is fooling yourself, the other is an accomplishment.

I don't think you are fooling yourself by climbing a mountain:stirthepot:
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift?
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#225  
Where the **** did he say your massey couldn't do that? I think he would agree that your SCUT could easily do all those things. For someone who says they like to argue logically, your post has a definite lack of it.

How many threads are started here by people who bought too small (or cheap) and need to move up? How many who bought to big and want to move down?



How about right here .



Someone wanting a tractor to . . . dig in the dirt, plow a drive, move pallets, . . . and considering a BX and seeking advise....yea they are gonna get "you need a bigger tractor" answers.

Those asking about mowing a 4acre lawn, and maintaining a flowerbed, hauling mulch, and wanting a blade to clear the drive of the 12" of annual snowfall, then yea, a SCUT is a better match.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #226  
How about right here .

Yes, he said that. Then you replied with examples of snowplowing and grass mowing. He never said that a SCUT couldn't plow snow or cut grass. He did say that someone wouldn't want to use a SCUT to move dirt, pallets, AND plow snow. I think his meaning was a SCUT is not meant for general utility work around a decent property. That is CUT work. Could a SCUT do it? Sure, but not as well as the CUT. Can the CUT mow a manicured lawn with a MMM, work in tight spaces, and move mulch etc in landscaped spaces? Sure, but the SCUT will do it better. There is a difference between CAN do it, and MEANT to do it. CAN I farm a 200 acre bean field with my 35HP tractor? Sure, might take a while, but I could. Is the tractor MEANT to do it? Absolutely not, that's why the local farmer all have 300HP tractors that cost more than my house.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #227  
Someone wanting a tractor to skid logs, dig in the dirt, plow a drive, move pallets, bull a moldboard plow, and considering a BX and seeking advise....yea they are gonna get "you need a bigger tractor" answers.

Axle, you deleted words. Once again you have tried to change the meaning of someone's post. LD1 gave a description of a group of tasks someone wanting a tractor may have in mind. If that group of tasks is to skid logs, dig in the dirt, plow a drive, move pallets AND pull a moldboard plow. A SCUT is not the way to go for this group of tasks. Le me break it down:

Skid logs - if you want to limit yourself to small chunks of wood, then sure, use an SCUT. But if you want to skid logs efficiently, bigger is better. The only limitation to size is the tightness of your logging trail. LD-1's post didn't say "skid small logs" So we should not assume he only meant small logs.

Dig in the dirt - we should not assume LD-1 means nice non-compacted top soil. If you dig in the dirt, you will run into big obstacles, hard packed clay etc.. A bigger machine is more likely to get the job done without calling in an even bigger machine - which often happens even with CUTs and UTs because neither are very big when it come to digging.

Plow a drive - This one could be done buy any tractor as long as you have time on your hands and you clear often enough that it doesn't get too high for your machine. But it was only one task in a description of many given as an example. And if you have a lot of clearing to do, it is not practical with a SCUT due to time considerations.

Move pallets - most people who get pallets delivered are talking about full pallets. Full pallets of most building materials are not liftable with a SCUT without doing some off loading by hand. Who wants to buy a tractor to move pallets and then have to off load by hand?

Pull a mold board plow - SCUT doesn't have the ground clearance or traction/weight to do this well


Axle - Your head seems pre-programed to believe that many people here are trying to put down SCUTs and make them out to be less than they are. Due to this bias, you misunderstand what they say because you are trying to force it to fit your pre-conceived notion about them. You seek to correct before you seek to understand.

On top of this, from your posts it seems that you are very new to tractors. If that is the case, why are you so argumentative when experienced operators share their experience. You seem to value the input of those without experience more than those with experience. This is non-sense.

Consider this a friendly intervention. Just pointing out some observations. I'm hoping you can grow out of this and get to the point that you realize that the folks her have good intent and that if it sounds like someone is putting someone down, you may have misread the post and should seek to understand before twisting their words.
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #228  
Once you go SCUT you never go CUT!

The funny thing is that someone can directly post the quote above and people just shrug, :confused3: But if someone happened so say something that made someone think they might be insinuating the reverse, you have a 228 post thread! ;)
 
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   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #229  
Because its fun :) Why do people climb mountains? Why do people jump out of airplanes? What a silly thing to complain about....I dont think a single person is dumb enough to be missled into buying a SCUT because someone is happy to post their SCUT exceeded their own expectations.

I for one am tickled pink that my tractor has exceeded everything I expected of it-everything. She is my swiss army knife of anything I own or have owned.

I'm happy that your happy :thumbsup: I don't think there is anything wrong with Axle's initial post. It was a factual representation of some testing that he did with his tractor. I think there is value in that and appreciate that he took the time to do it.

However, it became misleading when he started arguing that the limitation mentioned by others were not limitations.

Sometimes when pushing around stumps and brush with my tractor I feel like a kid playing with a bull dozer in a sand box. I have my little cage around me and the tractor can push a good amount. But it is no bull dozer! I know it, and would never try to say otherwise.

Not even close!

Kiara driving tractor w Calia.jpgcool dozer.jpg
 
   / How Much Can A Sub Compact Tractor lift? #230  
I have seen several members on here before call a SCUT an overgrown lawn mower.
So I can see why some SCUT owners get a little defensive. They are far more than an overgrown lawn mower IMO
Years ago when I lived on less acreage than I have now I squeaked by with a Wheel Horse garden tractor.
Back then I would have loved to have had a SCUT.
 

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