PTO Gen for bx2670... Does this work?

[dickfoster]

Thanks for the input so far... just to bring it back..

Just some more random thoughts on MY needs .......

When the power goes out..
I have no sump pump (which I need)
No well. Which I also need. Other wise I have no bathroom for the family.
We have a gas fireplace for warmth.

So I need a generator. I'm not that remote that I would need the tractor and the Generator at the same time. The wife is tractor friendly and not afraid to get her hands dirty.

The whole stand by gen (like generac) is expensive (about 2-3x)..... and I would still need a generator for outside needs.
I'm not opposed to getting a stand alone generator but I'm not sure either way if that is my best bet. I'm going to need some power for the sump / well.

So that is where I thought the PTO would supply the basics and provide a bit of extra comfort for the family / small kids.
I know my bx2670 is not the beast that many of you have.. but it's all I need and I don't see me getting another tractor just for generator duty lol.

Again... appreciate your comments and helping out.

Mine used to drive the well and the pressure pump too until I redid the hook up so it only drives the pressure pump in the tank now. I was on well only but put in tanks so I put them up hill so I could have some water with no power if necessary. Gravity is enough to flush toilets, take a navy shower, wash dishes and get dinner.
One of the reasons for putting in the tanks in is because you can't fight much of a fire with a well, especially if the power is out. I was also worried about the well as we're just starting to come out of this drought which also made fire a real concern. We were four years into it when I put the tanks in.

Of course the Generac isn't going to do squat for you away from the house.

 

[gogojuice]

I agree.. a stationary gen set it not for me..
For example:

10 kw Generac home system $4199.00 Generac 1kW Automatic Home Standby Generator System | The Home Depot Canada
10 kw winco PTO $2215.12 Winco W1PTOS PTO Generator, Single Phase 12/24V Model, Continuous 1, W, 166 lb.: Amazon.ca: Industrial & Scientific

Thats a difference of $1984. Prices may differ where you are.. but I'm in Canada..so these are my options.

I just used new examples.. not the well... I bought mine for xxxx at an auction etc..
Both would require extra setup for the transfer switch.. and the generac apparently requires additional money to be setup.

In my opinion.. I the standalone gen doesn't fit my needs.

So.. now it is PTO vs normal generator?
I could put either on a trailer, no?

I don't know what would be a comparable brand as I see wide fluctuations in pricing for different units.. so I didn't compare.

 

[dickfoster]

I started pricing out one of the Winco systems since it does have some appeal. By the time it's all said and done and you've added in the cost of the PTO shaft the 3PT hitch or a trailer, the transfer switch etc. etc. etc. I think you're looking at about the same cost if not more as a standby generator that is fully automatic making your down time a matter of a couple of minutes and effortless compared to rigamarole of getting this kind of rig all setup, hooked up and running.

I don't know if I'd wanna go though all that in the middle of a storm and likely in the middle of the night too. It's seems to be worth some consideration since things are not always as simple as they appear going in.

 

[dickfoster]

I agree.. a stationary gen set it not for me..
For example:

10 kw Generac home system $4199.00 Generac 1kW Automatic Home Standby Generator System | The Home Depot Canada
10 kw winco PTO $2215.12 Winco W1PTOS PTO Generator, Single Phase 12/24V Model, Continuous 1, W, 166 lb.: Amazon.ca: Industrial & Scientific

Thats a difference of $1984. Prices may differ where you are.. but I'm in Canada..so these are my options.

I just used new examples.. not the well... I bought mine for xxxx at an auction etc..
Both would require extra setup for the transfer switch.. and the generac apparently requires additional money to be setup.

In my opinion.. I the standalone gen doesn't fit my needs.

So.. now it is PTO vs normal generator?
I could put either on a trailer, no?

I don't know what would be a comparable brand as I see wide fluctuations in pricing for different units.. so I didn't compare.

I don't know where you're getting your prices but I don't think you're comparing apples to apples.
I see about 3K for an 11KW Generac Guardian which includes the transfer switch. Where are your costs for the PTO shaft, 3PT hitch or trailer (are you gonna carry a 300lb generator around? If so you're more man than I), the transfer switch etc.?

I figure installation is a wash for getting it wired to the house. That's gonna be about the same no matter what.

I've just done the reinstall and hook up of a Generac because the idiot previous owner had it so buggered up it was almost unusable. He had the automatic transfer switch and panel sitting unused with a sub panel and manual transfer switch cobbled up under the friggin house. You had to go out and start the generator manually, then crawl under the house to transfer, then go back out and under to undo it all when the power came back on. He had it powering what was handy, I rewired to power what was sensible. What a fool this guy was, driven by cheap. And to think, he used to fix airliners for a living.
Now all of my breakers are in the garage where they are out of the weather, dry and accessible and where they belong. Not outside in the weather or under the friggin house.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I don't see where they cost anymore to operate than a PTO unit would fuel wise. Mine burns a couple of gallons of propane per hour and propane is if anything cheaper than diesel. It burns cleaner too while ongoing maintenance costs are also much lower than any tractor.

Well, propane right now is at $1.50 to $1.60 per gallon and you say 2 gal. per hour... That's $3.00 per hr. +.

Diesel here right now is $2.58 per gallon and I use less than 1 gallon per hour...

I think that shoots the price comparison out of the water! AND, last winter propane was in short supply here, IF you was completely out, they had a 100 gallon limit, and that was for folks that needed it for heat!

Diesel, I always have around and "I" can buy all I want when ever I want, because the place I buy from has a generator for when the power goes out. But, I always keep plenty around as it doesn't go bad like gas.

SR

 

[dickfoster]

Well, propane right now is at $1.50 to $1.60 per gallon and you say 2 gal. per hour... That's $3.00 per hr. +.

Diesel here right now is $2.58 per gallon and I use less than 1 gallon per hour...

I think that shoots the price comparison out of the water! AND, last winter propane was in short supply here, IF you was completely out, they had a 100 gallon limit, and that was for folks that needed it for heat!

Diesel, I always have around and "I" can buy all I want when ever I want, because the place I buy from has a generator for when the power goes out. But, I always keep plenty around as it doesn't go bad like gas.

SR

You do what you want to do I was just attempting to point out all things to consider.

We've had had no limits on propane here and the prices have been low recently too, lower than what diesel costs me to buy out of the pump at the gas station anyway. Heck we have several local companies fighting for the business. Maybe it's a California thing but I can't ever think of any sort of advantage to living in this silly state. If it were up to me I wouldn't but my wife makes me do it.

 

[Soundguy]

Heck I'm retired and have no income to speak of. They don't really cost all that much but the one I have came with the house. I think a small one only costs about a couple of grand. You can get something large enough to power your entire home for around five. I don't see where they cost anymore to operate than a PTO unit would fuel wise. Mine burns a couple of gallons of propane per hour and propane is if anything cheaper than diesel. It burns cleaner too while ongoing maintenance costs are also much lower than any tractor.

Propane here is the most spendy fuel you can get. Diesel is under mid grade gas.

I'd go propane for fuel storage issues

 

[Soundguy]

I started pricing out one of the Winco systems since it does have some appeal. By the time it's all said and done and you've added in the cost of the PTO shaft the 3PT hitch or a trailer, the transfer switch etc. etc. etc. I think you're looking at about the same cost if not more as a standby generator that is fully automatic making your down time a matter of a couple of minutes and effortless compared to rigamarole of getting this kind of rig all setup, hooked up and running.

I don't know if I'd wanna go though all that in the middle of a storm and likely in the middle of the night too. It's seems to be worth some consideration since things are not always as simple as they appear going in.

The transfer switch is needed for both, so you can't count it solely against the pto Gen cost. As for shaft.. Do you own any other pto implements? All my 5' mower shafts fit my genset. The carry all was 50$. If 50$ is a deal killer, just noun it somewhere and backup to it and power it.
Rigamarole? Perhaps to a tractor newb I guess. After enough practice, hooking up implements becomes like checking oil and kicking tires. ( or get a tractor for each implement. )

 

[dickfoster]

The transfer switch is needed for both, so you can't count it solely against the pto Gen cost. As for shaft.. Do you own any other pto implements? All my 5' mower shafts fit my genset. The carry all was 50$. If 50$ is a deal killer, just noun it somewhere and backup to it and power it.
Rigamarole? Perhaps to a tractor newb I guess. After enough practice, hooking up implements becomes like checking oil and kicking tires. ( or get a tractor for each implement. )

No I have a backhoe on the tractor which would complicate matters further if it were me.
The price I put down was for the 11KW Generac package which included the auto transfer switch. That was also the Generac MSRP, so street price would likely be lower than that if you shopped around.

Diesel and propane run about the same here but I think the diesel is a bit more. I don't know why diesel costs so much here in lala land but I do hear truckers bitching about it because it costs them real money and eats into their profit margin. I don't use that much so just fill my two five gallon cans at the service station pump.

While you do the rigmarole. I'll sit inside with my hot coffee where it's warm and dry, the lights are on and watch TV or yak on TBN. LOL

 

[Soundguy]

I live in Florida, its always warm!

No roof leaks so always dry inside.

Neither my tablet nor phone requires house utilities top operate online.

No rigamarole needed. I'll just hookup a tractor without the backhoe.