PTO Gen for bx2670... Does this work?

[sea2summit]

Maybe it's free for you to maintain your tractor (or not) but for me, owning a HST tractor that the factory says I should replace both filters and the synthetic hydraulic oil every 400 hours it's a hidden expense that should be factored into the price. At about $400 for the oil and filters for the hydraulic system it works out to about $1/hr to run a PTO generator off my HST tractor. A BX should be cheaper but I bet it's more than most people think. If the OP is loosing power as often as he says and he needs power often enough so he puts even 20 hours over a 5 day period on his tractor it could add up.

Yeah boy, at that rate after 20 power outages he's caused an additional hydro change...or about $350 in services f he does it himself. Heaven forbid

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Yeah boy, at that rate after 20 power outages he's caused an additional hydro change...or about $350 in services f he does it himself. Heaven forbid

And THAT, is the reason I'd NEVER own a tractor like that!

I look for things like that, BRFORE I sign on the dotted line!

SR

 

[Soundguy]

Maybe it's free for you to maintain your tractor (or not) but for me, owning a HST tractor that the factory says I should replace both filters and the synthetic hydraulic oil every 400 hours it's a hidden expense that should be factored into the price. At about $400 for the oil and filters for the hydraulic system it works out to about $1/hr to run a PTO generator off my HST tractor. A BX should be cheaper but I bet it's more than most people think. If the OP is loosing power as often as he says and he needs power often enough so he puts even 20 hours over a 5 day period on his tractor it could add up.

A local neighbor has a large Ford tractor he backs up to the power pole where he has a transfer box. His PTO generator will run at least 12 hours out of the day for his milking equipment. Of course the Ford doesn't seam to get used for much else as he has 4 or 5 other tractors and a tractor of that size and age is most like gear so transmission wear is not an issue for him.

Batteries are fine for smaller applications but once you start talking things like a well pump, mine is a 1 1/2 hp, you are talking up to 20 amps at 240. That's a 5k inverter for something that runs for maybe a minute at most until more water is needed. Of course that's the problem, everyone's needs are different. Around me running an AC is pretty much not needed yet in the winter a furnace is a must (I have a wood stove specifically because it doesn't need power and I can cook on it if needed).

My sister has a whole house automatic back up system. It'll come on in about 30 seconds after the power goes out. Her husband will run it all night long if the power goes out. But he's upper level management at a large company and works 60 to 70 hours a week. Since he gets paid well his attitude it he doesn't get that much time off so when he's not working he wants to enjoy himself. Plus if he gets a call or text he needs access to the internet and doesn't want to deal with having someone wait while he fires up the generator and then waits for the model to connect up.

Are you actually putting hyd 'work' hours on you system, with it running a stationary pto load?

Free? Hardly. The dini oil I run in mine costs more that your synthetic.

If I run off my 7610s, that's 3 5g pails of oil , plus a filter, not counting air, eng oil filter, and 3g engine oil.

Running a tractor is an expense. Don't want the expense? Time to sell the tractor

Back to the hyd oil wearing out when parked.

I dont count stationary hours as straight hours on the Hyds. Even on a hst, they should only be just circulating.

 

[Soundguy]

Yeah boy, at that rate after 20 power outages he's caused an additional hydro change...or about $350 in services f he does it himself. Heaven forbid

They day I walk outside and figure I don't want to use my tractors because it wears them out, I figure its time to move off acerage.

I can just imagine going out to climb on my 1955 ford 950 trike to mow and think. " crikey.. I'm going to put another couple hours on her, and wear her out!.. And then.. Some day I might even have to service her!... That's it, selling the farm!"

 

[dickfoster]

In short, this is the way I look at it, tractors are made for diggin in the dirt and generators are made to generate electricity so each does what it's designed to do best. I wouldn't try to dig dirt or mow grass with my generator although with a long enough extension cord I suppose I could try. Nuff said.

 

[buickanddeere]

If tractors were not designed to be auxiliary power units for attached equipment . Why have pto shafts been installed on some tractors since the 1920's ?

 

[dickfoster]

If tractors were not designed to be auxiliary power units for attached equipment . Why have pto shafts been installed on some tractors since the 1920's ?

To power farm implements of course. But I wouldn't use a generator for that kinda job either. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should or that it makes a lot of sense when there is something designed specifically for the task. But to each their own. There are always more than one way to skin a cat but there is typically only one optimal way to do anything and tools ideally suited to specific tasks. That's why I have a lot of tools but don't we all? The one who dies with the most tools wins.

 

[gogojuice]

Thanks for the info.
Interesting debate.

"The one who dies with the most tools wins.".... but still dies. ( I know your joking dickfoster)

Steve jobs once said what good is it being the richest person in the graveyard

I'll have to look at a few more options.

It's either a PTO or a traditional get set?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Well, propane right now is at $1.50 to $1.60 per gallon and you say 2 gal. per hour... That's $3.00 per hr. +.

Diesel here right now is $2.58 per gallon and I use less than 1 gallon per hour...

I think that shoots the price comparison out of the water! AND, last winter propane was in short supply here, IF you was completely out, they had a 100 gallon limit, and that was for folks that needed it for heat!

Diesel, I always have around and "I" can buy all I want when ever I want, because the place I buy from has a generator for when the power goes out. But, I always keep plenty around as it doesn't go bad like gas.

SR

I made a mistake in my post, diesel is $1.58 NOT $2.58... BUT, I see it is now creeping up a little...

SR

 

[Soundguy]

To power farm implements of course. But I wouldn't use a generator for that kinda job either. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should or that it makes a lot of sense when there is something designed specifically for the task. But to each their own. There are always more than one way to skin a cat but there is typically only one optimal way to do anything and tools ideally suited to specific tasks. That's why I have a lot of tools but don't we all? The one who dies with the most tools wins.

As has been said, tractors have powered stationary pumps and gennies for a long time.

From an economy stand point,its more efficient. Less engines to care for.

Besides, I trust the quality and longevity of my tractor engine, vs one that's more lil a throw away lawnmower engine