Barn Roof repair...looking for some tips

[Zerk]

My roof is from 95, so far the nails are holding. Wooded and shaded, and we don't get the hot summers, so that may extended the washer life. Though one of my barns is from around 95, and seems to be doing ok. That one gets more sun. It has foam under it, which could hide drips. But unless it gets real bad, I wouldn't care.

 

[xring]

Don't you pitch your roofs? The ridge and flat, are at the same angle. The only difference is it is hollow under ridge.

Of course we do and the placement of the fasteners on top of the corrugation prevents the water from channeling and concentrating over the fasteners. There are two angles one formed by the pitch the other provided by the corrugation. However we have no need to pitch as steeply as those where snow and ice are a problem. The pitch on the original posters barn would scare me to death. Maybe you trust rubber gaskets, in our climate I think the UV inhibitors would fail over a few years and start leaking and the ridge placement works for us, but I always liked physics more than chemistry. Maybe this link would be helpful
Installing Metal Roof Sheets, Building Materials - Metal Roofing Online

 

[Zerk]

O Maybe you trust rubber gaskets, in our climate I think the UV inhibitors would fail over a few years and start leaking and the ridge placement works for us, but I always liked physics more than chemistry.

I disagree that any place on the roof is going to get less rain. I think physics shows that. The ridge is at the same pitch as the flats. Rain will fall on the entire roof, that is at the same pitch.

When I took physics, sometimes it helped to draw things out.

 

[Zerk]

Afunny way we do things in Texas works well or us. .

Texans can't go to long, without mentioning Texas. They think it is different. Physics books don't have a chapter for Texas.

They have confidence issues, from being #2 biggest state.

 

[bcp]

Texans can't go to long, without mentioning Texas. They think it is different. Physics books don't have a chapter for Texas.

They have confidence issues, from being #2 biggest state.

Unless Alaska splits in half. Then they would be #3.

Bruce

 

[xring]

So your premise is that rain wont flow off the ridge into the valley and that if there is one angle on the pitch there can't be another angle formed by the ridge in relation to the valley. On our roofs the difference in degrees from the ridge to the valley would be greater than the angle from the ridge to a spot lower on the roof pitch the same distance away, but again we only contend with water. Seems this has gotten into a silly phase, the original poster should pull the nails & replace with gasket screws and be very careful when doing it.

 

[xring]

Unless Alaska splits in half. Then they would be #3.

Bruce

Bruce, since you brought up some good natured fun about states I will give you a zinger and some extra ammo. 1 Never ask someone if the are from Texas if they are they will tell you if not why embarrass them. 2. You can always tell a Texan, but not much. As for size and worth of different states all of Alaska was purchased as were many states through the Louisiana purchase. Texas was fought for and bought with the lives of patriots. I hope each of you are as proud of your heritage as I am mine.

 

[Zerk]

Texas is a little too proud. I like the politics, thought I am more pro gun.

It is funny you say fought for. Cause you are little Mexico now. Never been there. But people tell you get to places down there that are just a Mexican slum. What percentage speaks english?

 

[xring]

Texas is a very large place and the population demographics vary by region, In the Valley there are a high percentage of Hispanics and of course in some of the cities such as San Antonio and Houston there are parts with high concentrations of Mexican and central American immigrants both legal and illegal and yes they are in the older sections of the city and not as nice as other areas maybe like Chicago or Detroit. Texas has always has a Latin influence many of the original Texas revolutionaries were Mexican nationals who like the immigrant Anglo's had enough of the broken promises of the Mexican government. We consider them just as Texan as the rest of us.When the Supreme Court ruled that all children whether of legal residence or not must be educated in public schools the attraction increased when the Reagan amnesty deal was corrupted by the immigration enforcement ceasing the floodgates opened and since our current president chooses to not enforce the laws while preventing the states from doing it the problem has increased. All that said We have enjoyed a much stronger economy than most of the USA and within the constraints imposed by the Federal government run ourselves in a sensible manner. As for your pro gun assertion, I am glad you have a pro freedom mind set however if you compare your username to mine yours is an attachment point for a grease gun, mine is the center of the Target.

 

[Zerk]

T I am glad you have a pro freedom mind set however if you compare your username to mine yours is an attachment point for a grease gun, mine is the center of the Target.

Actually it is short for berserker. People started shorting it to zerk.

I am poking at how long it took you guys to get open carry. MI and WI had it possiblly as long as we were a state, not sure.

 

[xring]

Actually it is short for berserker. People started shorting it to zerk.

I am poking at how long it took you guys to get open carry. MI and WI had it possiblly as long as we were a state, not sure.

Article 1, ｧ 23 of the Texas Constitution states: 摘very citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.

We had a right, the legislature just started bending the laws for their own purposes. As a kid almost every truck had a gun rack with some firearm in it. The wearing of handguns was seldom seen even now the CCL users can carry openly but I haven't seen a real case just a few that do it to show they can. I carry on my land but never openly in a public place.

 

[Zerk]

Just glad open carry is our state constitution. Spelled out.

That being said cops will probably screw with you.

We're guys about the last to pass the law.

 

[geteh]

Wait for a warm sunny day, after the snow has slid off, and go up there. That way the snow cushions your fall.

The thing to do would probably be to replace the nails with screws. But that would talk along time. A metal roof really shouldn't need caulking, unless you have something on it or through it, and then, caulking is supposed to be secondary, but often is primary.

I learned from a roofer to put the caulking under the metal, so the sun doesn't degrade it, when putting new metal on.

I don't like goin up on a metal roof with a 5 or more pitch.

You can screw a board along the bottom, to rest your feet against, for stability. Maybe bring bucket around Right Way Roofing contractors based in Utah.

What are you going to tie off to? That is the tough part. Don't tie off to the wifes car, on the other side, unless the keys are in your pocket.

Your plan is solid. Replace any damaged screws, apply Blackjack over screws, and seal seams and overlaps. Check for loose screws, rust, and backed-out fasteners. Use a thick nap roller for better coating application. Test with a hose after sealing. Work in cooler hours for comfort.

 

[Gem99ultra]

Our metal roof was originally fastened with screws w/rubber gaskets. Those held up well for about 12 years, until they finally dried out and began leaking. Last year we had every screw removed, approximately 6,000 screws, and replaced with new screws w/neopreme gaskets. That of course, was an expensive ordeal; 2 man-days for an experienced roofer. Hopefully those will last until we no longer care .

 

[newbury]

Your plan is solid. Replace any damaged screws, apply Blackjack over screws, and seal seams and overlaps. Check for loose screws, rust, and backed-out fasteners. Use a thick nap roller for better coating application. Test with a hose after sealing. Work in cooler hours for comfort.

You were replying to a May 17, 2016 post by a member who hasn't been here in a year.

 

[newbury]

Our metal roof was originally fastened with screws w/rubber gaskets. Those held up well for about 12 years, until they finally dried out and began leaking. Last year we had every screw removed, approximately 6,000 screws, and replaced with new screws w/neopreme gaskets. That of course, was an expensive ordeal; 2 man-days for an experienced roofer. Hopefully those will last until we no longer care .

That's the way to do it. Could you give us an idea of the monetary value of an "expensive ordeal"?
~$1K, or ~$5K or more?

 

[5030]

I have a 350-400 sq ft steel roof on an old barn that has numerous leaks. I suspect the leaks are coming from the washers around the nails have degraded.

Unfortunately it is very hard to identify where exactly the leaks are coming from, seems like its different every rain storm. Also I am not a huge fan of climbing up there.

My plan of attack is to go up on the roof with black jack ultra white (BLACK JACK White Ultra Roof 1 18.9 L White Roof Coating | Lowe's Canada) , some leak seal, some caulking, some new roofing screws and of course a safety harness

Some of the worst areas, I intend to cover all the screws with a dob of blackjack, replace any screws that are obviously messed up and caulk and leak seal as needed.

Any other tips from anyone out there??







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Had a similar issue to you last fall. I just called my insurance carrier, contracted a roofer experienced in standing seam metal roofs, paid my $1000.00 deductible and had an entire new standing seal metal roof installed. Easy peasy and no effort on my part. I'd rather pay a grand and let a professional handle it. Not about to get up there and fall and get hurt or dead.

 

[5030]

You were replying to a May 17, 2016 post by a member who hasn't been here in a year.

Probably fell off the roof and killed himself....

 

[Gem99ultra]

That's the way to do it. Could you give us an idea of the monetary value of an "expensive ordeal"?
~$1K, or ~$5K or more?

Keep in mind, we're talking about rural mid-Georgia in 2021, a place where good jobs are 70 miles away on all sides, our cost was $450/day for two days. That, including the cost of screws, was ~$1K.
The economy here has greatly improved since, so I would expect the cost to run ~$2K.

 

[2515R Dude]

I guess you like talking to ghosts, TOD 05/19/2016. it is 9YO post, but go ahead, keep fighting, some entertainment never hearts