countrybumpkin
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He is planning on using a aftermarket valve , he was just thinking of making a block to connect it to the factory location
Mx5100 remotes. Questions.
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I'm subscribing. One day, I'll tackle this project on my MX.
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Quality of valves is a non issue. Wasn't gonna use oem anyway. I am buying an aftermarket triple valve, and will likely fab handles to use oem slots.
Just looking for pressure and return to feed the valves. The cover i removed is right there near where I need. Thought it would be easier than running hoses off loader PB
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LD I'm posting a remote instruction manual. I know it's not for your, but look at how the return goes back to the rockshaft control. Look at pipe #10 and o ring #5, now where it goes in was just a rubber plug that I had to remove. It was painted the same color as the tractor. So look for something like that and it's the return.
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Thanks for that link. That valve diagram is just what I needed....i think.
Hopefully someone can confirm my suspicion....
It appears the cover i removed....one port is pressure, the other supply's the 3ph. Thus with the cover plate on, it supply's the 3ph.
If I were to tap into the hydraulics here, I would need to run the pressure to the remote valves. And a PB back to the other port so the 3ph will work.
An return to tank via the port that has the painted-over rubber plug in in (which I saw).
Still confused about the third port under that cover which seemingly goes no where? Perhaps it would have been used for a draft control option?
In either case, Ill leave it alone. I'd i plumb as described, I thin it should work . It will be supplying the remotes with a pressure source and a return to tank.
And with valves in neutral, oil will flow into the valves, and back out via PB as if they weren't there. Only thing I can see is when using a remote, the 3ph will not work at the same time? Don't foresee needing both at the same time, but is that normal? Or perhaps that's what that third port is for?
Hopefully someone can confirm my suspicion....
It appears the cover i removed....one port is pressure, the other supply's the 3ph. Thus with the cover plate on, it supply's the 3ph.
If I were to tap into the hydraulics here, I would need to run the pressure to the remote valves. And a PB back to the other port so the 3ph will work.
An return to tank via the port that has the painted-over rubber plug in in (which I saw).
Still confused about the third port under that cover which seemingly goes no where? Perhaps it would have been used for a draft control option?
In either case, Ill leave it alone. I'd i plumb as described, I thin it should work . It will be supplying the remotes with a pressure source and a return to tank.
And with valves in neutral, oil will flow into the valves, and back out via PB as if they weren't there. Only thing I can see is when using a remote, the 3ph will not work at the same time? Don't foresee needing both at the same time, but is that normal? Or perhaps that's what that third port is for?
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This may be zero help but I snapped a few pictures on my way out the door this morning. The cloth sheathed lines are my PB loop and unrelated to the OEM single rear remote.
View from the rear and a little above :
View from rear and a little below:
View from rear and side with a PB hose blocking the view of the lower rear remote line:
View from the rear and a little above :
View from rear and a little below:
View from rear and side with a PB hose blocking the view of the lower rear remote line:
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Appreciate the pics. Just doesnt show what I need.
Refer to this pic part 010 in the drawing
The plate I took off pictured earlier, is where the front half of this part bolts. Sealed by the two 030 and one 020 o-rings. Those three ports are circled in blue. The one with the red X through it, is the port that on the cap I removed, goes nowhere. And the other two sealed by the right 030 ring and 020 ring are connected via the cap. (I assume one is pressure, the other is feeding the 3PH). So if you imagine this cap as a hose.....basically cut it in half, feed the remotes with the pressure side, and back to the 3PH via PB????
I need to know if this is correct? And if the two tubes, circled in green, are connected to the two ports that the cap connects. And if the third port sealed by the left 030 ring in the pic that I have a red x through.....is this port still just blocked off and goes nowhere?
Just got off the phone with the kubota dealer, he is gonna call tech services and forward me on a copy of the service manual pertaining to this issue. But dont know what it will show. Was hoping they would just have this part in stock, and I would go lay eyes on it first hand. Just being able to see the back side of this part where the tubes connect would be huge.
Refer to this pic part 010 in the drawing
The plate I took off pictured earlier, is where the front half of this part bolts. Sealed by the two 030 and one 020 o-rings. Those three ports are circled in blue. The one with the red X through it, is the port that on the cap I removed, goes nowhere. And the other two sealed by the right 030 ring and 020 ring are connected via the cap. (I assume one is pressure, the other is feeding the 3PH). So if you imagine this cap as a hose.....basically cut it in half, feed the remotes with the pressure side, and back to the 3PH via PB????
I need to know if this is correct? And if the two tubes, circled in green, are connected to the two ports that the cap connects. And if the third port sealed by the left 030 ring in the pic that I have a red x through.....is this port still just blocked off and goes nowhere?
Just got off the phone with the kubota dealer, he is gonna call tech services and forward me on a copy of the service manual pertaining to this issue. But dont know what it will show. Was hoping they would just have this part in stock, and I would go lay eyes on it first hand. Just being able to see the back side of this part where the tubes connect would be huge.
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Forgot to ask, to you or anyone that has a kubota with remotes....
Do the remote functions and 3PH work at the same time? and if not....which has priority of you try.
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Didnt get much out of the installation manual he sent me. Pretty much teh same as the one leejohn posted.
But he did have this
Circled in red are where the remote valves are fed. This would be TWO of the ports in question under the cover I removed. Without remotes, the cover just connects these together to allow the 3PH to work as normal. With remotes, the manifold separates them, uses pressure to supply the remote valve, and feeds the 3PH via PB. The line to the right of my red circle, is the return to tank. Its separate from the ports in question and shown as 120 on the drawing 2 posts ago. Shows nothing of the 3rd port under that cover, so I'll assume it just gets blocked back off. So unless someone tells me otherwise, I am gonna start machining tonight.
But now the decisions......I have some 1" thick aluminum, and some 1" thick steel.....Probably just use the aluminum, since thats what the cover was, and because it machines so nicely.
But he did have this
Circled in red are where the remote valves are fed. This would be TWO of the ports in question under the cover I removed. Without remotes, the cover just connects these together to allow the 3PH to work as normal. With remotes, the manifold separates them, uses pressure to supply the remote valve, and feeds the 3PH via PB. The line to the right of my red circle, is the return to tank. Its separate from the ports in question and shown as 120 on the drawing 2 posts ago. Shows nothing of the 3rd port under that cover, so I'll assume it just gets blocked back off. So unless someone tells me otherwise, I am gonna start machining tonight.
But now the decisions......I have some 1" thick aluminum, and some 1" thick steel.....Probably just use the aluminum, since thats what the cover was, and because it machines so nicely.
C4Ranch
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Here's just an idea... What about buying the backhoe hookups? May get you all the necessary plumbing?
