Ford F150-I'm Done.

[ovrszd]

Maybe not to southerners but further north its' nice to keep snow out of the bed and secure things yet still allow the use of the bed for tasks that require an open top. I used to give my brother grief about his but I must admit it is nice when we are out hunting to have everything out of the snow yet when we are done hauling the deer we can go wash out the bed at the carwash. Try that with an SUV.

Yeah, I understand that.

So that couple times a year use justifies owning a truck? That could be debated. During Deer season here it's common to see SUVs with receiver hitch totes carrying their Deer.

 

[Shaneard]

Maybe not to southerners but further north its' nice to keep snow out of the bed and secure things yet still allow the use of the bed for tasks that require an open top. I used to give my brother grief about his but I must admit it is nice when we are out hunting to have everything out of the snow yet when we are done hauling the deer we can go wash out the bed at the carwash. Try that with an SUV.

I used to hunt with a guy and saw him many of times throw a deer across the spare tire hanging off the back of his Chevy Blazer and drive 60 miles home. It had one of those swinging spare tire holders.

 

[ultrarunner]

My 2012 F-150 just hit 60,000 miles and the only thing I've done so far is the brakes. I really didn't need to replace them, but we where planning a trip to Colorado and I thought i would be a good idea to have fresh brakes for the mountains. Biggest mistake I made was going with the more expensive, top of the line Wagoner brake pads. They went on super tight, which should have been a big warning right from the start.

The first day I drove it into town, about ten miles, it was raining and when I hit a water puddle, it turned to steam. I slowly made my way to a friends shop and had him take a look. They where so hot that they warped the calipers and caused over $400 in parts that had to be replaced. The manager of ABC Auto said that they had been having a huge issue with Wagoner pads and that they would reimburse me for the parts plus the labor to fix everything.

The problem with Wagoner brake pads is that they make them just a little thicker then factory, they use a metal in them that gets super hot and they cut the pads into different sized section that heat up faster in the small sections and remain hot longer.

A couple weeks later I went back to the store to pick up something and asked about my claim on the brake pads. The manager completely changed his story and denied telling me about all the problems they have had with Wagoner brake pads. My buddy who owns the repair shop couldn't believe it and called the manager himself, and was told the same thing. He never said anything about the brake pads and that they where the best ones out there.

Everything is now Ford brand parts, which seem to be trouble free and working flawlessly. Hopefully the truck lasts to 200,000 miles like the last two Fords did.

Whats wrong with the electric power steering?

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I had trouble with Wagner on my Van and pulled them off the next day... went to the FH Dailey and bought OEM for double the price... they made the difference and all was good.

 

[coobie]

I never have understood the people who buy a pickup then cover the bed, why not just get the SUV you wanted to begin with?

I just don,t understand it.LOL

 

[TSO]

As I recall, Dodge came out with the Hemi in 2003, and while I don't know the exact numbers, its at least close to the numbers you listed for the Tundra.

Yeah close, 345hp/398tq... I forgot about the Dodge. I didn't know anybody that kept one running long enough to give a good review. (jk)

 

[aczlan]

Agree with thought-all of them today are much better vehicles than they ever were. I think it boils down to owner loyalty and what you were brought up with. I'm a Ford guy. As a little kid hung out in one of the uncles heavy truck shop. and they talked about what "He" was going to do next-the "He" being Henry II.
Now you look at Toyota and Nissans attempts to break into the big pick up market with let's face it-minimal success. But look at the households today that have nothing but foreign brand cars in the yard. Think kids brought up in those households will have any loyalty to Blue Oval, or Bow tie or Mopar? I'm afraid not.
Now if any of my kids drive in my yard in a 'yota they are out of the will!:laughing:

On the other hand, I just bought a 2008 Ford Taurus X which was built on a Volvo platform (the Ford D3 platform was built off of the Volvo P2 platform).
Also built on that platform were the Five Hundred, Taurus, Freestyle, Mercury Montego, Mercury Sable and the Lincoln MKS.
The D4 platform was also an extension of the D3 platform.

As I said to Kenny above, you are a tiny minority.
Maybe we should do a poll. But then those that never even get their bed dirty are probably not going to respond.
Drive into any city mall parking lot and look around. They are parked EVERYWHERE. Most don't even have a trailer hitch, or gravel chip, or scratch in the bed (bed is covered). And they outnumber us dramatically!!!!

Where else are you going to pickup a clean used truck for cheap

Aaron Z

 

[ultrarunner]

I'd contact the manuf of the pads directly Eddie. Something is definitely wrong with those pads, and they should compensate you. If the store sold you the wrong pads (meaning, wrong PN), then a reputable manufacturer may "help them" understand that they need to do the right thing and step up.

I'm more familiar with the electric racks on small cars - at higher mileage they seem to wear out - meaning mechanical slop, and you can always have an electrical fault. The wear mechanism for hydraulic PS is mostly the seals, so long as you keep fluid in 'em, they keep running. New, I find the feel of many electric PS systems to be somewhat vague/less direct, but that is just personal preference.

Rgds, D.

About 25 years ago the power steering in my Dodge started to leak... I was on a budget and added some power steering sealer... again 25 years ago and still have the vehicle and have not had to add any since.

 

[ovrszd]

Where else are you going to pickup a clean used truck for cheap

Aaron Z

Yeah. I had an afterthought. I could call my friend (car salesman) and tell him I wanted a clean, unmolested, never worked, 100K miles or less, 1/2T truck in a specific brand/model/color and he would ask me how many I wanted.

 

[TheGoose]

I'm not sure how this discussion evolved into who needs what. I actually own three trucks, all Fords. An F250 (6.2l gas), an F350 DRW 6.0 diesel, and the F150 3.5 l TT gas. Both of the superdutys are rigged out as service trucks. The F350 has a flat bed with a crane that can lift up to 12,000 lbs to 38'. The 250 has a full Royal service body and the 150 is my daily driver. Actually we tow a 16' stock trailer with two horses several times per month. If a SD didn't have such a harsh ride and low fuel mileage I would probably get another SD truck.

There are lots of choices out there with all different kinds of styles to suit whatever you need.

 

[roadhunter]

Yeah, I understand that.

So that couple times a year use justifies owning a truck? That could be debated. During Deer season here it's common to see SUVs with receiver hitch totes carrying their Deer.

LOL. Some places snow more than a couple times a year.

Debating with someone about what works best for them is really not much of a debate. If you can't understand why someone would want a pickup with a bed cover so be it but that doesn't' mean there aren't some good reasons.

Here is one. The ability to clock up and protect various items from weather and theft as well as use the truck bed for larger items when necessary. Everything from golf clubs to tools can be secured with a bed cover and still haul furniture for example when you need to move.. Some people find that useful.