Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder?

   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #21  

Yep, great stuff. I get it at TSC, but lots of places have it. I've been using it quite a bit on my vise restorations, and am really impressed with how well it works.

I didn't take these pictures for this purpose, but they give a pretty good idea of how well it works. First pic shows the overall rust everywhere on this vise. Second pic is how the jaws looked right after coming out of Evapo-Rust....totally clean bare metal.



 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #22  
Does anyone know why when you post a link to an Amazon page, it always defaults the the Amazon Canada web site with the prices in Canadian Dollars, and everything is marked up to the horrific prices Canadians pay for everything? Does it have something to do with the fact that the American Amazon site uses cookies to know when I have logged into it and goes to my account?
For example this gallon of Evaporust is $17.99 here with free Prime shipping. What say some of you really really smart internet guys?
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #23  
How do you guys get by without a whole bunch of wire wheels? Here in the rustbelt I must use one for something almost daily and have a whole assortment. My go to is the bench grinder from HF which only has enough guts to run wire wheels anyways. Then there is the 4.5" disk and cup that are on the grinders for the hard to get at stuff which most of it is. No guards whatsoever here, all they do is get in the way constantly. I do make sure the face shield is on and with the angle grinders muffs. Keep that chin tucked down so the shield protects the soft places and wear gloves, then let the crud fly. FYI I being a cheap *&^%^ use Forney brushes and disks. They last 3/4 as long as the Makitas and cost about half. Tiny 1" jewlers brushes on my Dremel are the absolute go to for cleaning crevices and especially corroded electrical terminals. Stay away from the Dremel $5 ones, they self destruct as fast as the cheap $21 for a 20 brush bag I get from some on line store on Eabay . You have to handle them gently but oh do they get in the small spots nicely. If its soft stuff I just use the soft wheel. Usually I clean all rusty bolts I have to pull this way as it makes them easier to install and hopefully easier to pull next time. Some Neversieze compound helps too.
I don't doubt that evaporust works well but I bet it works a lot better and lasts a whole lot longer if you knock most of the crusty nasty stuff off first with a wheel and use it only for the pits and crevices. I hadn't seen that around but the price makes it definitely worth looking into. I assume it's some other form of Phosphoric Acid which I already use. I will be looking that up. Do you have to soak or does it work to some extent on things large like panels?
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #24  
How do you guys get by without a whole bunch of wire wheels? Here in the rustbelt I must use one for something almost daily and have a whole assortment. My go to is the bench grinder from HF which only has enough guts to run wire wheels anyways. Then there is the 4.5" disk and cup that are on the grinders for the hard to get at stuff which most of it is. No guards whatsoever here, all they do is get in the way constantly. I do make sure the face shield is on and with the angle grinders muffs. Keep that chin tucked down so the shield protects the soft places and wear gloves, then let the crud fly. FYI I being a cheap *&^%^ use Forney brushes and disks. They last 3/4 as long as the Makitas and cost about half. Tiny 1" jewlers brushes on my Dremel are the absolute go to for cleaning crevices and especially corroded electrical terminals. Stay away from the Dremel $5 ones, they self destruct as fast as the cheap $21 for a 20 brush bag I get from some on line store on Eabay . You have to handle them gently but oh do they get in the small spots nicely. If its soft stuff I just use the soft wheel. Usually I clean all rusty bolts I have to pull this way as it makes them easier to install and hopefully easier to pull next time. Some Neversieze compound helps too.
I don't doubt that evaporust works well but I bet it works a lot better and lasts a whole lot longer if you knock most of the crusty nasty stuff off first with a wheel and use it only for the pits and crevices. I hadn't seen that around but the price makes it definitely worth looking into. I assume it's some other form of Phosphoric Acid which I already use. I will be looking that up. Do you have to soak or does it work to some extent on things large like panels?

I use all kinds of wire wheels and brushes. I keep a bronze brush on a bench grinder, cup and flat fine brushes on two angle grinders, the small ones on my Dremel tool, and then a variety of sizes from about 1" to 2" that I use with a drill.

Evapo-Rust doesn't have phosphoric acid in it. I read a long thread on another forum and one of their distributors chimed in and said that very specifically. It's a chelation agent not an acid or chemical but a synthetic iron molecule suspended in water with a PH of 7, neutral.

You can use it on flat parts...soak a clean rag or paper towels with it, place them on the panel, and then cover them with plastic to slow the evaporation.
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #25  
Wire wheels and other brushes styles and types like brass, are golden in my book of amateur repairs..
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #26  
Does anyone know why when you post a link to an Amazon page, it always defaults the the Amazon Canada web site with the prices in Canadian Dollars, and everything is marked up to the horrific prices Canadians pay for everything? Does it have something to do with the fact that the American Amazon site uses cookies to know when I have logged into it and goes to my account?
For example this gallon of Evaporust is $17.99 here with free Prime shipping. What say some of you really really smart internet guys?


That does not happen with me.
Got no idea why it would happen with you, Sorry.
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #27  
That does not happen with me.
Got no idea why it would happen with you, Sorry.

Well, I am from Missouri the "show me" state. Here is an Amazon web site that when I go to it is the American web site, in fact MY web site with my self logged in and showing the price in American dollars.

Amazon.com: Evapo-Rust ER12 The Original Super Safe Rust Remover - 1 Gallon: Automotive

Now if you would be so kind to post the exact same product (evaporust) and then go back and click on it and see what happens. When I click on my own posted site it takes me to Amazon Canada Not Amazon America. Lets see what yours does..

evaporust.JPG
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #28  
I second (or third) the advice to use a full face shield when using a wire wheel. My cousin, a metal shop votech teacher, was using a big bench mount wire wheel. When he shut it off he took off the face shield while it was still spinning and got a wire in the eye. I seldom use the safety devices on most power tools as I think they usually impede operation, but I will never be without a face shield when using a wire wheel.
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #29  
Well, I am from Missouri the "show me" state. Here is an Amazon web site that when I go to it is the American web site, in fact MY web site with my self logged in and showing the price in American dollars.

Amazon.com: Evapo-Rust ER12 The Original Super Safe Rust Remover - 1 Gallon: Automotive

Now if you would be so kind to post the exact same product (evaporust) and then go back and click on it and see what happens. When I click on my own posted site it takes me to Amazon Canada Not Amazon America. Lets see what yours does..

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Works fine for me.
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #31  
Maybe it is using your cookies.
Try erasing them and see if it still occurs.
I erase my cookies often as well as my history.
No good reason, just something I use to do to keep my computer clean. I am not sure if it does keep it clean with all the government tracking.

To the OP,
Sorry for running with the highjack.
Back to the original question.
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder?
  • Thread Starter
#33  
I clicked the link in the quote above and it takes me to the US page.

Anyway, I have and use Evapo-Rust. But I don't have any Evapo-Dirt, Evapo-Old-Hard-Grease, or Evapo-Paint, so I use the wire wheel.

Bruce
 
   / Any good, safer replacement for a wire wheel on a bench grinder? #34  
There is a really GREAT replacement. It's called a plastic beading machine. Just like a sandblaster, but shoots plastic beads. The plastic is WAY softer than the metal and takes off almost anything without removing metal at all.

The disadvantage is it takes a very good air supply and the plastic beads, while they DO get reused, are basically consummables eventually. But it will clean metal perfectly without removing ANY metal.

Find one and try out out ... you'll be a convert immediately.
 

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