John Deere 5075e verses 5075m

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Raul5452

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Hello fellow tractor owners. I'm new on tractor by net.
I am seriously considering upgrading from a JD 970 to a JD 5075. Some treads I've read seem to push me to the 5075m rather then the 5075e. M is more trouble free and higher hydraulic capabilities . Please help me understand the difference. I've been lot/pasture mowing, brush clearing, spreading dirt for 17 years . Love my JD 970 but is old and parts are harder to find. Any input is greatly appreciated. Plan to get a cab on it. How much maintenance do the cab's require ? Thank you all for any input.
 
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I would stay away from the 5055-5075 tractors if your considering a 5075m. Completely different tractors. Consider the 5085e and 5075m, they are more comparable. The M series are nice but I would rather have the larger E series

I pick up my 5100E on Monday. 5055e will be go go gone

Brett
 
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I have three E series JD's (2014 5055E, 2014 5085E, and a 2016 5100E) and with the 55 and 85 each having 600+ hours.

I have had no major problems with any of them. I had a weak starter on the 55E that was replaced under warranty at about 100 hours.

How much will you be using the tractor? That should be your biggest consideration. The M is a substantial increase in price from the E, and for what I use mine for it wasn't worth it. The tractors principally mow and spray in orchard work, so I didn't feel the upgrade to the M series to be necessary.
 
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Thank you Brett. But you say to consider 5085e or 5075 and that the e series is larger. Are the 5075m and the 5075e the same size ? I'm told the e series has more bells and whistles.
Thank you magician 710. My plans are to match a seppi mulcher to the tractor for more serious brush clearing. Brush oak mostly 1" thick to 4" thick. Occasionally 5"&6". Continue to mow lots , pastures, spread dirt and root grubbing. I stay busy 30/40 hours a week 10 months a year.
 
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Thank you Brett. But you say to consider 5085e or 5075 and that the e series is larger. Are the 5075m and the 5075e the same size ? I'm told the e series has more bells and whistles.
Thank you magician 710. My plans are to match a seppi mulcher to the tractor for more serious brush clearing. Brush oak mostly 1" thick to 4" thick. Occasionally 5"&6". Continue to mow lots , pastures, spread dirt and root grubbing. I stay busy 30/40 hours a week 10 months a year.

I would stay away from the 5055e-5075e, they are built in India. The 5075m and 5085e are built in the states. M have more features and options over the E series but both would be great tractors for you. I agree the bigger E series have more than enough bells and whistles but the M is the cats meow.

Brett
 
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The M has a more substantial frame under it as well.
 
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Thank you Brett. But you say to consider 5085e or 5075 and that the e series is larger. Are the 5075m and the 5075e the same size ? I'm told the e series has more bells and whistles.
Thank you magician 710. My plans are to match a seppi mulcher to the tractor for more serious brush clearing. Brush oak mostly 1" thick to 4" thick. Occasionally 5"&6". Continue to mow lots , pastures, spread dirt and root grubbing. I stay busy 30/40 hours a week 10 months a year.

Sounds like some hard work... Grubbing brush oak. That's a lot of hours every year - 1,600!

IMHO - get the M. The heavier transaxle housing, the heavier loader options, faster hydraulics, etc.

But... I wouldn't go with the 75M. Go bigger. If you need to/plan to shred 1"-6" stuff, get the 4.5 liter engine.

(I don't want to offend the legion of 2.9l fans, but I have never seen another application for that engine beyond 75hp. Personally, I want a power plant that has been utilized in other platforms at a higher rating than I'm planning to work it - not at the maximum.)

You'll pay more up front but, given the amount and type of work you need to do, the M will hold up better and still have value whenever you sell or upgrade.
 
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The 5085e is made in, Maharashtra, India.
 
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The 5085e is made in, Maharashtra, India.

5085e/5100e are built in Augusta Georgia. There's very few things in life I'm sure of but this is one of them. The 5045-5075e are built in India, where I don't remember. This was one of the big deciding factors for me to get the bigger size

Brett
 
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Brett, if I am wrong I sincerely apologize. My best friend bought a 2015 5100e. According to Tractor Data.com it was made in India as is the 5085e. Like I said I don't want to provide bad information. If you google any tractor Tractordata.com will come up and give basic information. It seems to me like when I told my friend that has the 5100e that it was made in India he confirmed it. I'll ask him again today. I thought you had to get into the M series to get a new JD made in America. If tractordata.com is wrong, which is possible I'd like to know as I use that for a reference a lot. Again sorry if I was wrong.
 
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I'm with AKfish, I'd go with the bigger tractor and in the M series. 1,600hrs a year doing PTO work is a lot. I'd want the cushion the larger tractor would offer and the best cab I could buy. :)
 
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The M is a much better deal. Around here there are lots of E's unsold but an M is quickly snapped up. The market says "M".
 
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Brett, if I am wrong I sincerely apologize. My best friend bought a 2015 5100e. According to Tractor Data.com it was made in India as is the 5085e. Like I said I don't want to provide bad information. If you google any tractor Tractordata.com will come up and give basic information. It seems to me like when I told my friend that has the 5100e that it was made in India he confirmed it. I'll ask him again today. I thought you had to get into the M series to get a new JD made in America. If tractordata.com is wrong, which is possible I'd like to know as I use that for a reference a lot. Again sorry if I was wrong.

I gotcha. I know for sure the 15-17 are assembled in Georgia. I thought the earlier ones were too but I don't have one so can't confirm. I know my 17 is because it just came in on a truck from there!

I've had my fill with India built tractors

Brett
 
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I gotcha. I know for sure the 15-17 are assembled in Georgia. I thought the earlier ones were too but I don't have one so can't confirm. I know my 17 is because it just came in on a truck from there!

I've had my fill with India built tractors

Brett

Well.. We're all waitin' and holdin' our breaths for those pictures! Let's see what a 2017 looks like!!
 
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Well.. We're all waitin' and holdin' our breaths for those pictures! Let's see what a 2017 looks like!!

Me too! Just got off the phone with the dealer and it'll be tomorrow afternoon before I can pick it up. I have my 5055e all loaded and was waiting on the call. He said that the 3rd function comes with a new guard to protect it and they were missing a stud or something and the parts for the single point hyd for the loader were ordered a little late since I switched to that the other day. I'm ready for it to be here, grass isn't ready to cut just yet but I want to just be able to look at it!

Brett
 
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Me too! Just got off the phone with the dealer and it'll be tomorrow afternoon before I can pick it up. I have my 5055e all loaded and was waiting on the call. He said that the 3rd function comes with a new guard to protect it and they were missing a stud or something and the parts for the single point hyd for the loader were ordered a little late since I switched to that the other day. I'm ready for it to be here, grass isn't ready to cut just yet but I want to just be able to look at it!

Brett

Good move on the single point connection! You're gonna like that. Looking forward to seeing the latest 3rd function hookup... New guard setup?? Hmm.
 
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Gentlemen, I thank you for all your input on 5075e verses 5075m. Now I m more convinced to go with M. I spoke with a JD mechanic shop foreman the other day whom has helped me for the past 17 years with mechanical problems with my 970 JD, he is telling me that the new emissions tier4 is troublesome . Too many sensors that can shut tractor down to 1000 rpm. Can be something minor or something major. Laptop has to be hooked up to figure out problem. That spells down time whether I take it to the shop or get tech out to job site. Any input ?
 
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Gentlemen, I thank you for all your input on 5075e verses 5075m. Now I m more convinced to go with M. I spoke with a JD mechanic shop foreman the other day whom has helped me for the past 17 years with mechanical problems with my 970 JD, he is telling me that the new emissions tier4 is troublesome . Too many sensors that can shut tractor down to 1000 rpm. Can be something minor or something major. Laptop has to be hooked up to figure out problem. That spells down time whether I take it to the shop or get tech out to job site. Any input ?

Yes, your statement has merit.

The limited performance that you mentioned is commonly called "Limp Mode". The computer senses what it diagnoses as a hazardous, destructive situation. Rather than let the engine perform normally until this problem magnifies, it limits performance. Most times this is an rpm limit. Some times it is an rpm limit plus a gear selection limit, if computerized transmission is present. Might only function in 1st gear for example.

Not knowing your age, I'll use myself as reference (65).

My early cars had carbs and a point system ignition. Only three tools and a pack of gopher matches was required for a quick tune up. Straight screwdriver, Phillips screwdriver, pair of pliers, gopher match cover to use as feeler gauge. Before a Saturday night street/drag race I have many times tweaked the point setting and timing slightly to get a hotter run. Wouldn't start for crap because was timed too fast. But sure ran good for the few minutes I needed it to.

Today's cars can be tweaked in a similar fashion. Doesn't require any tools. Just a Laptop computer with the appropriate program installed.

Old cars could almost always be made to run with a few minutes under the hood.

New cars can almost never be made to run with a few minutes under the hood.

Which is/was better?

Computerized operation has moved into the tractor market in thanks to EPA. Requires technical input to make diagnosis/repair. Requirement for such intervention is rare. Very rare. For every tractor owner here on TBN that has a horror story concerning this technology there are 100 owners here that will testify to never having the need to have their tractors worked on. I hauled my new tractor home 4 1/2 years ago. 1200hrs later it's never had a dealer repair of any kind required. No malfunctions, no computer glitch, no failed parts.

I've said this before and I'll stick with it now. Use tractors long enough and you will own an emissions tractor. No escape from that fact. I dread the use of DEF more than the possible problems with it. :)
 
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Final Tier IV seems to have fewer problems than interim Tier IV. Having DEF seems to be a better situation than a tractor with Diesel Particulate Filter - DPF and EGR - exhaust gas recirculation... (Don't you just love all those acronyms!). Biggest concerns seems to be - what happens when the tractor has 4000+ hours and you have to replace the SOC and the DOC - selective oxidizing catalyst and diesel oxidizing catalyst.

Today's cost is somewhere in the neighborhood of $7,000-8,000!

As ovrszd stated, the new tractors, trucks, all have it! If you're looking at a new machine - you will have a DEF tank!
 

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