Ok, so whats the deal with the NorTrac tractors?

   / Ok, so whats the deal with the NorTrac tractors? #1  
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Kubota L4701
I'm looking to buy a tractor within the next couple weeks. Been doing a lot of research and shopping around. Was looking to buy a 33hp kubota for 25k with a loader. Found the NorTrac tractors and see i can buy a 70hp tractor with front loader for a mere 34k. Why are they so inexpensive? I assume i can get any parts i want from northern tools if something breaks? Every tractor including the kubota will have problems, so what gives? I can almost buy two NorTrac tractors for the price of one kubota. What is the argument here? Why doesnt everyone go for these tractors? Maybe someone can shine some light on this issue.
 
   / Ok, so whats the deal with the NorTrac tractors? #2  
Probably because of dealership phobia.
 
   / Ok, so whats the deal with the NorTrac tractors?
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#3  
So you think because Nortrac doesnt have dealerships all over like the other tractor companies they have to lower their prices to compete? Maybe its just about the comfort of being able to go to a dealership in your area if you have problems? Or is it just branding...NIKE shoes are better than Walmart brand type of thing
 
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Not at all. I think they are not forced to sell for less to compete. They can sell for less because they have less overhead in their machines than other companies. The machines come from Asia, and as I recall (but don't quote me on this) they are assembled and tested in Minnesota. Then shipped to where ever the buyer is directly from Minnesota. I don't know how they handle service across the U.S. I just received the spring Northern Tool catalog at home. There is some literature in there regarding how they handle service. I'll have to read up on it.

But go to their website and see how easy it is to find any info out on that on your own................... good luck with that! :laughing:

You'd think they'd make it something prominent to promote peace of mind for possible buyers, but you gotta look good and hard to find anything about how to get those tractors serviced.

Go ahead. Look for it. Please! I can't find it. Post a link.... many folks would be interested in how its handled. :thumbsup:
 
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I agree with service and/or part support being a concern. NorthernTool "just sells things...they don't service anything". I purchased a power washer from them (among many other things over they years) when I needed to replace a plastic oil plug that cracked...NT told me I had to call the manufacture...good luck with that. I ended up finding a metal plug.
 
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Actually the Northern Tool here does service small engines, chainsaws, etc. I have no idea how good they are, but I have not seen one tractor on the lot. I would assume that you would order it and then they would ship it to you. From my limited understanding Jinma is the manufacturer for the smaller units and Foton is the manufacturer for the larger ones. I would suggest instigating these brands and the specific model you are considering from Northern.
 
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Have you actually seen one?? They are pieces of crap compared to a good name brand tractor. Very much like any budget Chinese/Asian tractor you will find in that price range. You definitely get what you pay for.

If you do a search here, you will find information, some good and some bad. Some people are happy with them. When I saw one, it was unquestionably junky. Rough castings, cheap looking mechanicals, and sloppy assembly. Seemed like a waste of money to me. I know some people buy the Jinma/Foton machines and accept they will need to fix stuff that breaks all the time, but that's not for me.
 
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Jinma tractors are not for the mechanicly feeble. If you trade your car is off before the warranty is out, because you are afraid of the blinker bulbs burning out, do not even look at these tractors. CTOA.net is a site specifically for Asian tractors. Lots of good info on there. Do your homework, make your own decision. Lots of people have put thousands of hours on them, and love them. I do not know about Northern and how they treat their customers, but there are several dealers in the United States that treat graymarket Tractor owners very well. I can have my parts in my mailbox in less than three days when needed. Mine is 10 years old with over 750 hours and I would buy it again in a heartbeat. Rock solid little tractors, little glitzy things that you need to live with. No major failures of any type.
 
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They are cheaper because they are of "typical" Chinese quality!

You now have been warned.

SR
 
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We have limit time to get work done so when some tool breaks down, we need to get it out of the field, trailer it to whatever shop who can repair it and wait for parts to arrive and work to be completed. I can't comment on the Northern tools NorTrac tractors but we'll stick with any machine that will break down less and hopefully work more. Of course all machines can break..
 
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Jinma tractors are not for the mechanicly feeble. If you trade your car is off before the warranty is out, because you are afraid of the blinker bulbs burning out, do not even look at these tractors. CTOA.net is a site specifically for Asian tractors. Lots of good info on there. Do your homework, make your own decision. Lots of people have put thousands of hours on them, and love them. I do not know about Northern and how they treat their customers, but there are several dealers in the United States that treat graymarket Tractor owners very well. I can have my parts in my mailbox in less than three days when needed. Mine is 10 years old with over 750 hours and I would buy it again in a heartbeat. Rock solid little tractors, little glitzy things that you need to live with. No major failures of any type.



Agree ^^^

Mine is not a Jinma- but has been a very good machine to- for what it cost, going on 1300 hours. hour meter is mechanical and most of the time runs well below rated pto speed , which is how it counts hours If it had an electric hour meter I think it would be close to 3000 hours.


now going on year 23 of use.

Farm Boys has had any parts I have needed and generally for a very reasonable price.


There was a guy on CTOA that bought a 70 hp YTO ( troysie) and last I saw he was very happy with it. here is the thread after he posted

Edit:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/buying-pricing-comparisons/234777-chinese-tractors-4.html plenty more china tractor bashing in that thread to.

The tier 4 pretty much killed the chinese tractors being imported. He got his before it happened.




Maybe if he see's this thread he will give us an update on the now almost 10 year old machine if he still has it, also how Robs 80 HP Duetz copy has held up.

Good or Bad I would still like to know.


One of the draws of these chinese tractors especially when you get above about 50 HP is a Whole lot more machine ( literally) for the same money.

but just like the big name tractors there are differences in quality in chinese machines. also believe that the quality does improve when moving up in size but that is jmo

I am at times surprised at just how little activity-( as far as problems) being posted on that site there are, concerning the owners tractors ( I am also a member) sometimes it is weeks without much activity.

Sold my Ford 3000 - and it was a really good tractor.
but
did keep the more capable, comfortable 4x4 tractor
with suspension seat, full lighting package, canopy, 55 hp heavy built (5400lb. without loader) and easier starting ( in the winter) QUIET running machine.

If you are going to have a local name brand dealer wrench on the tractor you buy- I would not suggest a chinese tractor.
if you do not have basic mechanical skills i would also recommend against it.

as far as parts go I have seen a lot of posts on this site where a much newer Name brand machine than my Rhino, had a whole lot more trouble sourcing a part they needed than I have had.

That being said there are also some chinese tractor orphans that have very poor parts availability.


Before considering buying, check out their availability for sure. The sponsored chinese parts suppliers have a really good idea as to which tractors are well supported.

Would I buy a Rhino 554 again, without a doubt. I have a friend who has tried to buy mine on a couple of occasions- but it is not for sale.
 
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So I looked at my Northern Tool catalog and it says to go to NorTrac.com for more information....

Guess where NorTrac.com takes you???

Right back to Northern Tool.

Can't find ANY information about how to get it serviced anywhere on Northern Tool's website.
 
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So i've been looking at the 45XT and the 55XT. These tractors are lower priced than the 30hp Kubota with a loader i was about to buy. I called Northern Tool last night at 11pm pacific time and right away got a hold of an American that spoke English. I was trying to figure out more info on how i can get one with a loader as they dont show them on the website. He told me to call the main customer service on Saturday. I called them and the guy told me how the whole process works. They are assembled and tested in Minnesota. The 45xt and 55xt are new tractors and so may not have all the implements listed on the website. He told me to call Nortracs main number on Monday 952-808-6697. The customer support already seems to be top notch. These guys were very helpful and I didnt expect to get ahold of anyone at 11pm on friday night but i did. Its good to see you can contact Nortrac directly instead of just a random associate for all of northern tool, so there's that.

I need to gather more info on monday, but it seems to me the downside of buying these tractors is mainly about getting repairs done. With a kubota you can just take it to the dealership to get it fixed (i assume) but im sure it would also be very expensive. With the amount of money you save on these tractors, you could buy an entire garage full of every tool you would need to work on these tractors. Personally, I dont like depending on mechanics to fix my stuff when i can learn how to do it myself. If you start fixing your stuff early, you will become a great mechanic in a few years and save yourself a ton of money.
 
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Do you do ALL your own car and truck maintenance, including transmission work?

What do you know about hydraulic systems?

Find out if the Operator's Manual and Parts Manual are in Chinese, Pidgin English or English.

There are many Japanese and Korean car brands for sale in USA. None from China, though General Motors has the largest car market share in China.


You are a BRAVER SOUL than I.
 
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I live far away from any cities that would offer tractor repairs. It would take a 2 hrs just to haul the tractor to a paved road, and another 4 hrs to get it to the nearest large city. Then i'd have to drive back home, and then back to pick it up, and then back home again. So for me, anytime my truck breaks down, i fix it myself. If i need a tool, i buy it. If i dont know what Im doing (everyone is here at some point) i research, read the manuals, and figure it out. Painful? YES. But once you've fixed an issue, it takes a fraction of the time to do it again. You build your knowledge arsenal up this way and save countless dollars in the long run.

One of the requirements for me buying a nortrac will be the manuals. If they have good repair manuals and i can talk to someone who assembles these things i'd probably pull the trigger on one.
 
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I have been seeing Northern Tool (Northern Hydraulic) sell tractors under the Nortrac name for 20+ years. They haven't gone away. TBN folks own them. I've never seen one up close- but it reminds me of my Japanese made Shibaura New Holland. I thought it was American made at first. Nope foreign. - I once owned a Datsun - excellent car that became Nissan. I bought a Hyundhi back in the 1990's and have had 4 of them since. Terrific car. Korean made. Each time there were warnings against them. Parts, dealers, etc.

I bought my TC30 used. I couldn't see paying 8,000 more for a new LS (29hp) that had 600 fewer hours. Nortrack was in the running until I found my tractor on Craigslist. - I stayed away from the pricey green and orange tractors- nice as they looked.

Good luck.
 
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Here is the warranty info. With the exception of the $100 deductible after 60 days it looks like any other warranty in that getting it to and from the service center is your responsibility. I would ask where the closest pre-authorized service center is located.

View attachment 511124.pdf
 
   / Ok, so whats the deal with the NorTrac tractors? #18  
Do you do ALL your own car and truck maintenance, including transmission work?

What do you know about hydraulic systems?

Find out if the Operator's Manual and Parts Manual are in Chinese, Pidgin English or English.

There are many Japanese and Korean car brands for sale in USA. None from China, though General Motors has the largest car market share in China.


You are a BRAVER SOUL than I.

Do YOU drive your tractors to work or do you have vehicles that you have to have functioning every day? What the prior poster meant is that he can do the work if he has the tools to do the work and can figure things out. BRAVER SOUL? Probably not but is more mechanically inclined. Some people can pull wrenches and some use them as hammers.:)
 
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<snip>If you start fixing your stuff early, you will become a great mechanic in a few years and save yourself a ton of money.
I've tried that route with 2 used Kubota tractors since '09. Bought the WSM and parts manuals, basically so far a waste of money. About the only thing I've had to do besides batteries, fluids and filters is swap out a several hydraulic lines and 1 leaking bucket cylinder.
Darn things don't break down.

I've read all the manuals from front to back and THINK I'm prepared, but it definitely has not made me a "great mechanic" or saved me "a ton of money".

I used to own a Fiat 128SL back in the '70's - Now that car was a training tool.
 
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So I looked at my Northern Tool catalog and it says to go to NorTrac.com for more information....

Guess where NorTrac.com takes you???

Right back to Northern Tool.

Can't find ANY information about how to get it serviced anywhere on Northern Tool's website.



That should tell you all you need to know.
 

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