Kioti Mechron 2200PS 2 buy or not 2 buy...

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Looking for a Mechron diesel UTV, and my dealer has two, 2016 leftovers, both for $12,100, down from $14,xxx. They're both floor model leftovers, one has a canopy, and one has worksite tires, the other has AG type.

Wondering what anyone thinks about the price and quality; have prior issues with the CVT transmission and any other earlier year bugs been worked out, or are there any major issues with them?

I'm not knowledgeable about UTV's by any means, but have been reading up on them recently.
I read and see videos about engine braking, CVT sheave/clutch issues and various other things I'm curious about.
The Mechron would be big step up for me from a Suzuki King Quad 450 ATV, with tow behind 2 wheel wagon.
I don't need an all the bells and whistles with huge price tag UTV, just something to haul bed sized loads, pull a 'flex axles' trailer on the rear receiver, and maybe do plowing? Not even sure it will take a plow? And possibly a rear receiver sander?

Think I will keep the ATV and do private sale later.

Like my dealer; he's close by, has sold me 2 Kioti tractors, is product knowledgeable, and has been in business forever, but is small town and friendly, all good things.

Would look around at other brands, possibly Yami and Kawi, but not Deere or Kubota. This is just personal preference, price and brand consciousness and loyalty. NOT slamming the brands I don't want to look at/buy, just expressing my preferences.

Any thoughts, feedback from current owners, other potential current buyers, are much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Thanks,

CM
 
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Depends on what the usage will be. I investigated long and hard on my 2016 UTV purchase and drove what was available locally. Besides a work type UTV, I also wanted to be able to play with it. Playing dropped diesel from the list and also the work specific type UTVs as they did not have the acceleration I wanted. For me, it came down to Kawasaki Mule Pro FX EPS for work specific or a Polaris 900 XP with PS for more play related. Kawasaki had an outstanding warranty (3 years) and well built body. I seem to recall a lot of steel in the build and a great bed. The Polaris has a terrible warranty (6 months), was more expensive with my options (auto glass F/R, steel roof and 4500# winch) and a plastic body and bed. The Polaris won out due to aftermarket accessories as I found little for the Kawasaki. I do not have many hours on the Polaris yet but its power, handling, ride and ability to go anywhere I want it to is satisfying. Only thing I do not like is the gear selector (have to hunt a bit for reverse) and the engagement after shifting gear positions is a bit abrupt initially.

Pulled out an anemic Toyota Tacoma stuck in the sand, stretched new fence install, among other things and just added a Big Sky BSR-2 rifle rack to the ROPS:

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   / Kioti Mechron 2200PS 2 buy or not 2 buy...
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Too late. I bought one earlier today. Actually wife bought it for me as a birthday present! Best wife EVER!:thumbsup::D:cool2:
 
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Got the red colored one, with worksite tires and canopy and back rack. Am adding bed rails, and headrests; everything else will be considered as I begin using it.
It should arrive shortly- same day delivery by my local dealer!:thumbsup:

BTW, it will do 25MPH, which is plenty fast for me for work use. I don't have any need to 'play' with it. It is a utility vehicle for work around my properties.

I may now be able to get some good use out of my dual articulating (?) axle ATV/UTV trailer with manual operation dump bed. It has 4 fairly large turf like tyres.
 
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I have been considering a trailer like you mentioned. Any purchase or use tips? There are lots of different models available and I have to wonder under what circumstances they may be better than a "regular" trailer with flotation type tires. I would think really rough ground maybe, going over logs, etc.
 
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Lets see some pics!
 
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I have been considering a trailer like you mentioned. Any purchase or use tips? There are lots of different models available and I have to wonder under what circumstances they may be better than a "regular" trailer with flotation type tires. I would think really rough ground maybe, going over logs, etc.

I bought the trailer to use with my then Suzuki KingQuad 450cc ATV. The trailer is too big for the Suzuki to haul around so I shelved it until now having the 3 cyl diesel Kioti Mechron, power is no issue!
it's really too heavy for it's engine displacement.
So I 'shelved' it. I had planned to use it to 'build' a trail around my properties perimeter, but have not gotten to it yet, because of what I just said above.
NOW I can go in the woods as needed no sweat, and the floating dual axles would work exactly as intended to get me there and haul stuff in/out along the way. The big flotation type tires should do what I need them to do - that is what this trailer was designed for, in theory, to haul stuff over logs, rocks, mounds etc. without suffering the drawbacks of 'normal' fixed axle trailers.
I'll have to look-up where I got it from, but it was after doing i-net research. It has a metal frame, side rails and a hydraulic jack, which is manually operated to lift the bed for dumping, as needed. This part I see as the potential PITA/weak link, since it is operated by a long metal rod which reaches the hydraulic jack to allow for a pumping motion of the jack's mechanism. I've never used the dump feature to date, except to install the jack, etc. when I initially assembled the entire trailer.
Currently, while getting used to the Kioti I am towing the trailer as a tool carrier for things like my Echo PowerBroom, shovels, rakes, etc.
Soon I will be coating the trailer bed, ( PT 2x6' Spruce boards) and the metal edge of the frame with Herculiner roll-on bed liner, right after applying it to the Kioti's bed and side rails.
Here is the company and brand I bought my trailer from: ATV Trailer Tandem Axle Super Heavy Duty , For Rugged Use! 2500 lb. Capacity! SPECIAL SALE PRICE! $959.00 + SHIPPING
Here's a further link to their sidebar list of items they sell, AND a more detailed description of the various trailers, both bare and equipped:
Wagons & Trailers

I will say the trailer arrived with the side rails and other portions of the metal frame all scratched down to bare metal, and I brought it to the attention of the seller and we worked out a reasonable resolution. Like most shipped things today, the last gorilla to kick it around usually does the most damage, and NOBODY want to take responsibility. The shipper blames the seller and vise-versa, SOP!:confused3:
Let me know if you have any questions....


Lets see some pics!
Thanks, I hear you, been real busy; when I get some down time I'll try to get some posted. It's my weakest link on TBN- I hardly ever get to it....
 
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... Here is the company and brand I bought my trailer from: ATV Trailer Tandem Axle Super Heavy Duty , For Rugged Use! 2500 lb. Capacity! SPECIAL SALE PRICE! $959.00 + SHIPPING

I will say the trailer arrived with the side rails and other portions of the metal frame all scratched down to bare metal, and I brought it to the attention of the seller and we worked out a reasonable resolution. Like most shipped things today, the last gorilla to kick it around usually does the most damage, and NOBODY want to take responsibility. The shipper blames the seller and vise-versa, SOP!:confused3:
Let me know if you have any questions....

Excellent write up. Thank you. I may get one after my shop is built- soon, I hope.
 
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Excellent write up. Thank you. I may get one after my shop is built- soon, I hope.

Thanks, I try.
PM me if you want need more specific info. I would carefully look at what they offer. The product is good, BUT like anything make sure what you select best fits your specific set of needs. I chose the 1 ton with planks and side rails so I could have everything in kit form to assemble vs. running around getting/cutting lumber for planks, etc.
The wheels have needle roller bearings and zerks for greasing- another big selling point for me.

Cheers,

CM
 
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Here are some random pics of my Mechron 2200PS. Enjoy!
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Thanks. That's a good price, I think, can't quite tell is it a gallon of the product, or less? Does it contain 'chunks' of material for non-slip enhancement?Have you used the product, and if so, how do u like it?

Haven't used it, just saw it was a good price compared to the Herculiner. On the box, it says 120 oz, 3.5L so it is less than a gallon, but says covers 8' bed. Not endorsing it or know anything about it, just posted for anyone to consider.
 
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Milkman, no problem. Was just curious as to what you knew about the product. I saw that it was 3.5 Litres too, so with a 2 part mix one has 8 oz. short of a gallon of product.
 
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Coyote machine seeing it has been over 6 months since you bought your Mechron can you tell the pros and cons of this machine. I am sort of working on a deal with my dealer on a 2017 Mechron 2200 PS with Field cab/ snow plow. I have read lot of good stuff on them.
Thanks
Gilles
 
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Coyote machine seeing it has been over 6 months since you bought your Mechron can you tell the pros and cons of this machine. I am sort of working on a deal with my dealer on a 2017 Mechron 2200 PS with Field cab/ snow plow. I have read lot of good stuff on them.
Thanks
Gilles

Hi. I haven't used it a lot since I got it, and I'm away from home three months during the winter, So I don't use it then. I have used it to load and tow various things and it has worked well. I like the tires that came on it. I don't have a windshield, but did get the chassis skid plate and headrest kit and rear metal mesh screen from my selling dealer. The screen make sit somewhat difficult to see behind the 4 by, but does keep things from flying toward your head if you slam on the brakes.

I like that it's diesel, do find the shifter to be somewhat awkward, and find when I try to back it up, when cold started, it tends to 'jerk'. I can't sit and let it warm up inside my garage bay because the diesel fumes are not compatible with me breathing air. I'm not saying it plumes smoke, it doesn't, I'm saying I need to back out of the bay as soon as it's running and then let it warm up. At times I find the CVT trans to be less than desirable as far as it's moving from a dead stop. Once it's warmed to OP temp, it seems to be fine. It is quiet for a diesel, has adequate power, goes fast enough to run my dirt road when I need to move between properties. I haven't yet added a lot of aftermarket things to it except two adjustable side mirrors I mounted on the ROPS, which helps me see behind me for any vehicles on my road, when I turn to enter my adjacent property. I don't have a turn signal kit or horn installed, or hazard lights, or windscreen or any type of cab.

I like it's ground clearance, BUT don't really like the amount of legroom, not quite enough to comfortably access the pedals. 4 x 4 works OK and same with Diff lock. Brakes going down steep hills with heavy load in back are at times a little scary, but I mitigate that by taking it slow down my driveway. The CVT trans is part of the braking, so going to low can help slow momentum. I usually don't do this because I want to get point A to B quickly, so it's a balance. Just beware it's not like car brakes for sure.

I bought mine as a dealer left over for a couple of K off imaginary list price. When I look at what others pay for more decked out similar machines I really feel this unit is a great deal. I will probably put a front end winch on it. I already came with a front grill bar which allows to install a winch OR to install a front end receiver hitch and add a 'portable' winch which could be inserted in either front or back receiver.

One thing I don't really like is the way the tailgate drops down below level for emptying the cargo bed.
The latching on either side is OK, but I would like the gate to stop at level instead of somewhere below level. I guess their thinking is it will effect less wear on the gate when dumping a load? The dump by hand mechanism is difficult to work with in my experience. If one has a load of anything they want to dump on the ground, they need to release the latch on the driver's side, then tilt the bed to make it dump. That might be difficult to near impossible depending on the load weight and position of the UTE. It could even require two people to work from each side to lift the bed far enough that it will then self dump the load at the point of 'tipping'. The bed lowers with hydraulic piston assist, but the release mechanism to get the bed to start decent is awkwardly located and IMO, somewhat of a PITA. The handbrake is a PITA for getting in or out of the UTE, at least for me. I'd like it to come with a hand brake light built into the std equipment, not as an ad on, with I guess the turn/horn kit too. I do NOT like where the instrument cluster is located, it's way over to the right side of the dash and makes keeping an eye on crucial gauges difficult.

Servicing from under the bench seat seems relatively easy, but I haven't enough hours on it yet to worry about any servicing. Would be nice if the oil dipstick was accessible without having to remove the under seat vertical panel, though it could be more difficult if they tried hard enough! I like that without a hitch inserted in the rear receiver that it keeps one from breaking their shins, and if I'm not mistaken I seem to remember that might still be the case even with the hitch attached...

I would appreciate what you can link me to as to other's reviews on this machine.

You can PM me the links if so inclined.
Any other questions PM me or ask me here.
I'm really surprised there aren't more on here at TBN, discussing these UTEs?!

Hope this helped you decide what to do...:thumbsup:

If you plan to do a lot of dumping it may be worthwhile to get the pricy electric?/hydraulic assist.

I like that the Mechron is a Kioti 'creation'. That equates to a good value for my investment, and hopefully means I won't be repairing it; instead I'll be using it.
My main use to date is the convenience of it being a 'carryall' and a good tower of things for projects around my properties that my DK-40 tractor isn't as suited to. And my wife can and does drive it around while I'm doing real man chores with the big dog!:)
 
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Thanks coyote machine for the write up very interesting. My dealer is getting prices for me on the Mechron 2200 ps with field cab/ snow plow with electric angulation. Also thinking about the track system for it. I will trade in my 2013 CK 30 HST ( 67 hours) with front mount snowblower, F.E.L. , rear scraper blade and soft cab. The reason for trading tractor is that I use it mostly in the winter and find it hard to take off quick attach mount/ blower. I did a lot of landscaping on the property with my CK but I want something that can used year round for work, play and snow removal. Again thank you now I wait for a full price from my dealer.
Thanks
Gilles
 
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I looked at tha mechron and test drove one, but it was to noisy for my needs. I ended up with a kawasaki mule. Extremely quiet and a great machine. I added the hydraulic dumo bed for the wife.
 
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Thanks coyote machine for the write up very interesting. My dealer is getting prices for me on the Mechron 2200 ps with field cab/ snow plow with electric angulation. Also thinking about the track system for it. I will trade in my 2013 CK 30 HST ( 67 hours) with front mount snowblower, F.E.L. , rear scraper blade and soft cab. The reason for trading tractor is that I use it mostly in the winter and find it hard to take off quick attach mount/ blower. I did a lot of landscaping on the property with my CK but I want something that can used year round for work, play and snow removal. Again thank you now I wait for a full price from my dealer.
Thanks
Gilles

WOW! Five years and only 67 hours... That's hard to believe, but makes for great resale pricing. Are you sure you don't want to sell it yourself. Otherwise your dealer is going to make a killing on both deals?!
I've seen the front mount blowers and they look like a real PITA to install/remove.

So, you're looking to put tracks on instead of wheels/tires? Does Kioti supply those, or aftermarket? What advantages do you see with those, especially for whatever they would cost over conventional setup?
I'd like to see a picture of those installed. Do you have any of the reviews you mentioned earlier- I'd really like to read those too.
Thanks,

CM
 

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