Brillion Hub and Bearings

[sixdogs]

Needle roller and cages start on page 56 http://www.skf.com/binary/30-241905/06003_2-EN-Needle-roller-bearings_Lowres.pdf You need the inner and outer diameters plus width to get an SKF designation number, plug that number into google/ebay and see who will sell it cheapest. For that application, I wouldn't feel bad swapping in a drawn cup needle roller (page 75)

Needle Roller Bearings - Bearing Depot & Supply

This is a terrific find. Brillion is not going to make cage bearings so somewhere on the net must be a reference to a number or size needed. Likely your bearing cups are worn too much to get an accurate measurement. I would guess that the bearing Brillion uses was a common part of the 1950's-1960's and is one of the most common around. That's what I have found with their parts.

Maybe you could figure out the bearing size after you get yours apart. You could measure the bearing holders and if you could find a good bearing measure that, guestimate tolerance and then try to confirm on the net from someone who had done it before. My experience with Brillion bearings is they fail from a lack of grease and the bearings stop rolling so that one side is destroyed while the other side looks pretty good.

 

[mx1alex]

Whelp I called the local brillion/landoll rep and he told me to go to the local John Deere dealership. I gave them the original part number and they went back to the computer and said they could get them. I asked how much and they said $6.50 per bearing. I was kind of taken back! I ordered four of them and they should be in by Tuesday. I guess we'll see then if they are the right ones.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Humm big difference. Hope it’s not each roller.

 

[sixdogs]

Whelp I called the local brillion/landoll rep and he told me to go to the local John Deere dealership. I gave them the original part number and they went back to the computer and said they could get them. I asked how much and they said $6.50 per bearing. I was kind of taken back! I ordered four of them and they should be in by Tuesday. I guess we'll see then if they are the right ones.

Doesn't sound right. Let's hope this works out. With Brillion, I have found I need to do my own due diligence because the sales people usually don't order enough parts to be fluent in them. I had to educate myself.

 

[RickB]

I don’t expect that to end well.

 

[sixdogs]

Is no news good news?

 

[mx1alex]

I heard the guy wrong. Not $6.50.... $86.50!!! ha.... So I got one instead of four.

So my problem now is I can get the felt washer for one side but not the bigger one for the other side. Looking for part number 2C981 - Felt Washer 3-3/16 in. O.D.

Any idea where to find one or a some sort of workaround?

 

[Ford850]

Just google "brillion 2C981" and you'll find a couple sources.

 

[ddbackhoe]

Just google "brillion 2C981" and you'll find a couple sources.

I'd cut one myself, but obviously this OP isn't that type

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[mx1alex]

Found another source for the felt washer. Now I just need to find time to put it back together.

 

[sixdogs]

Found another source for the felt washer. Now I just need to find time to put it back together.

What did the existing bearings look like?

 

[npalen]

Brillion seeder - Nex-Tech Classifieds
Don't want to derail this thread but do have a question on this Brillion. I'm thinking that the 8' seeder could be cut in half and remaining good parts used to replace bad parts and a 3PT hitch added on. (Edit) To end up with a 4 ft 3PH seeder.
Could I get some opinions on the feasibility? I have access to fab and welding as needed.
Would it be capable of seeding K31 fescue at a rate of 5-10 lbs per 1000 sq.ft.? (215-430 lbs per acre)

 

[mx1alex]

What did the existing bearings look like?

I've only taken one apart so far as it was the only one that was easily identifiable as having a bad bearing.

Here's what it looked like when I opened it up.

 

[sixdogs]

I've only taken one apart so far as it was the only one that was easily identifiable as having a bad bearing.

Here's what it looked like when I opened it up.
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When they're bad, it's easy to see because they fall out in your hand like that.