Cheap Start to Reloading?

   / Cheap Start to Reloading?
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#111  
I just loaded up 50 of the 124 Gr Xtreme plated hollow points. 5.0gr CFE Pistol, 1.123" OAL with Winchester small pistol primers.

The Xtremes weight between 124.1 and 124.9 gr on a 10 bullet sample and diameter was 0.3545".
Just tested out 20 of the 50. 19 of 20 on function, one caught on feed ramp. Accuracy from the Hi point 995 at 15 yards was pretty fair for unsupported standing. uploadfromtaptalk1525909418245.jpg
Ejection was pretty weak, some landed maybe 18 inches away, so next time I may drop to 1.100" OAL, or possibly up charge to 5.2gr. I think I need to shorten OAL to help feeding, but 5.2gr seems to be the magic sweet spot.

I might load
10 at 5.0 gr at 1.100"
10 at 5.2 gr at 1.120"
10 at 5.2 gr at 1.115"
and see how it works.
I'm also intrested in if the Xtremes expand, might try that later, but they punch holes in paper...
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading?
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#112  
Next money will likely be a Lee Perfect powder measure... measuring each charge, adding/subtracting with the Lee scope is slow. Probably also pick up a loading tray... I've been handling them loose on table so far, and that's less than ideal.

So, yeah, that will be another $30 to spend...
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #113  
If your serious about reloading get a dillon, You can easily load 400 rnds an hr.I shoot several types of competition and load 1000s of rnds a yr on my dillon 550s You can get very good quality ammo with a progresive loader.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #114  
If your serious about reloading get a dillon, You can easily load 400 rnds an hr.I shoot several types of competition and load 1000s of rnds a yr on my dillon 550s You can get very good quality ammo with a progresive loader.

I tried, but he said no :) 50 rounds in 2 hours would drive me up the wall.. But everyone to their own. :)
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading?
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#115  
If your serious about reloading get a dillon, You can easily load 400 rnds an hr.I shoot several types of competition and load 1000s of rnds a yr on my dillon 550s You can get very good quality ammo with a progresive loader.
I could see upgrading to one of the new Lyman 7 hole turret presses or frankly an turret with 4 holes atleast, but only when I set up an area dedicated to reloading. Right now, it's on a TV tray and the dining room table. Could be a couple of years before I really have the space for something like that.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #116  
I'm glad it's working out for you and it's good to hear you're looking to some expansion. I dedicated reloading spot really helps speed things along, no set up or teardown cleanup after reloading.

If you do get a Lyman turret, keep your old press just for resizing cases, plus it never hurts to have a backup just in case.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #117  
When you do start looking at turret presses you need to compare the cost of changing calibres and the ease.Once you get into it you will want to start loading for multiple calibres.I started out loading 45 acp 30 yrs ago on a rockchucker and now i have 2 dillons alee and an mec ,It can be addictive, good luck.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #118  
Next money will likely be a Lee Perfect powder measure... measuring each charge, adding/subtracting with the Lee scope is slow. Probably also pick up a loading tray... I've been handling them loose on table so far, and that's less than ideal.

So, yeah, that will be another $30 to spend...
Lee powder measure was an upgrade that I made before getting a press (Lee loader).

The greatest thing is the Lee quick trim die system in a hand press. Remove what ever cutter isn't needed for your cartridge and then dump the shavings out by turning the press over. One shot and they are all EXACTLY the same length, debured and chamfered. But and this is a BIG thing NEVER EVEr turn it in the die without a case or the cutter will get a little bend and start ruining brass.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading? #119  
Well... I think my goal was to be reloading ammo with $150. I think I was at around $165 in order to crank out my first 100 rounds.

Since then I've added Lube, Lemashine, primer flip tray, and more projectiles, so I'm probably around $275 total, which includes having loaded right around 500 rounds so far, with components on hand to load another 575.

So, for $275 for around 1000 rnds, if you count only for cheap Full Metal Jacket the store-bought would have been cheaper, but not by very much

wait till you add a 60$ lead pot, a 20$ mold, 25$ thermometer, scavenge or buy some scrap lead / lead alloy from a gun range ( 85 cents a pound ? ) and then a 20$ lube and size kit. Then you can really start cranking out pistol rounds. a pound is 7000 grains. Say you are loading 38spl/357 and doing 158 swc or similar and tumble lubing them. you will get about 44 projectiles per pound. if your range scrap costs you 85 cents a pound, then you are just buying lube. if you use the lee micro groove/tumble lube, then you can lube for really about a penny a round. if you use conventional wax lubes, then you can make your own and pan lube then size. you might hit 2 cents a round doing it that way, depending on if you make some of the exotic red lubes and or incorporate lanolin.

so 2 cents per boolit, and lets say 2 cents for lube. that's 4 cents per projectile so far.
lets say you are loading 158g LSWC and using titegroup for 38SPL. The charge range is 3.2 - 3.8 grains. Lets use a low to mid load of 3.2-3.4 grains. you should get about 2000 loadings out of a 30$ pound of powder ( I've seen TG as low as 25..high as 32 ). If you buy in the 8# keg you get about a 13% discount.
So that adds about 1.5 cents per cartridge.

If you pickup your range brass then your cases cost nothing past initial investment.. and free if they were your buddies 1x fired that doesn't reload.

now we are down to primers. If you buy in bulk, you can get primers in the 2-2.5 cent range.. and if in trays of 100, in the 4.5-5 cent range. lets say you are buying a single brick, and getting primers in the 3.5 cent range.

that puts you at 2 cents for projectile, 2 cents for GOOD lube, 1.5 cent for powder and 3.5 cents for primer. 9 cents per loaded round.

About the only way to go cheaper is to buy powder by the keg, and primers by the case, and get free scavenged lead.

Doing that, you can shave your price down to about 6.5 cents per round. I have heard of people getting down to 4.5 cents by basically getting free lead, and making their own pan lube using perhaps not GOOD materials, but GOOD ENOUGH for range plinking, and also buying primers at 50000 at a time.
 
   / Cheap Start to Reloading?
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#120  
Shoot some Xtreme 124 gr plated HP, 5.3 gr CFE Pistol, 1.100" PAL, Winchester small pistol primers today. Group was between 2-2.5" at 25 yards, with iron sights. Final round of the 20 test didn't lock bolt open, but could i dont know that was a power issue
 

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