Buying Advice Any advice before I make my tractor decision?!

[hilltop Haven Farm]

Ready to make my tractor decision. I have been researching for almost a year and now it's time. So I want any more opinions or suggestions. So here's the meat. Budget is 25k for a tractor and fel. Property is 45 acres(half wooded and half field) but all land is on a hillside. Will be Bush hogging, logging road maintenance, clearing trails for horse riding, working around the horse barn, etc. The 2 tractors I am down too are the kioti NX 4510 and tym 454 both hst. Tym is a little below budget and kioti is just a tiny bit above. Kioti is a 3 cylinder turbo and tym a yanmar 4 cylinder. Am I missing on any other tractor is this price range? Anything I should be looking for that I'm missing?

 

[ptsg]

Test drive both and get as feel to see what fits you better with the controls and etc.

Get a good feel from the dealers as you'll need them for services and problems that may or may not occur. Basically you need to know if they will stand on your side when you need them.

Maybe consider other brands that you wouldn't think much about.

 

[CMV]

If either dealer decides to get out of tractor biz, how far is nearest alternate dealer?
Does each accomplish every task you have in mind or would you be working around a limitation on one vs the other?
Warranties the same?
What dealer freebies are being added if any? (filled tires, delivery, minor modifications, 1st service, etc)
Does one include something substantial the other doesn't? mid-pto, remotes, convenience features, etc

Ultimately, thoughts after long test rides? That would be most important to me - which one "feels" better to me as the operator? Which one do I have the confidence in being able to do what I want it to do?

I can offer this: I have very few gripes about my NX so far. They are so minor they are very nit-picky. 1. no toolbox included, 2. ROPS bar required removal of nylock nuts to fold, 3. seat sensor too picky if suspension adjusted enough to not bottom out on roughest bumps, 4. loader moves slower than most at lower rpm, 5. hood latch pretty stiff, 6. finding M range can require some wiggling of the selector, 7. Zerk at front axle pivot requires lots of pressure to accept grease - fine with cordless gun, chore with standard manual grease gun. 8. seat belt wants to keep getting tighter to the point it's uncomfortable. I would run out of space listing all the things I like about it So far after about 40 hrs and doing lots of different things with it, that's all I can find fault with, and all minor/easily resolved.

 

[MESSMAKER]

Looks like 2 pretty good choices. Kioti is a better established brand but TYM seems to be coming on strong. You don't hear much negative on either brand. I think I would look hard at the TYM.

 

[Groo]

Rural King sells rebranded TYMs with a longer waranty.

might be something worth considering.

 

[kcflhrc]

I'm pretty partial to the Yanmar Engines, that would be my choice.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

I'm pretty partial to the Yanmar Engines, that would be my choice.

I don’t know much about either brands mentioned but I have 3 Deere’s right now, all powered by yanmar and all doing well.

My buddy has a 28XL mahindra and he loves it, I hear mahindra and TYM are similar.

I shopped mahindra, NH, JD and case, was gonna buy a brand new 1533 open station, ended up buying a used cabbed JD 4320 with 830 hours on it. It’s got 910 hours on it now and no troubles.

I’m getting into hay now, wished I bought a 5 family tractor that was around 70hp lol. When I bought mine a 4 family 48hp tractor was stupid big and I have come close to out growing it. You never know what lies down the road.



If you make a profit on your property with AG related stuff you can file for tax exempt, at least here you can, I had cattle and chickens at the time, that’s what I did.

 

[Omega Woods]

Rural King sells rebranded TYMs with a longer waranty.

might be something worth considering.

+1

Also, I'd look at LS if you have a local dealer. Please don't just look at 2 tractors.

 

[joeyd]

I am partial to the TYM brand, but my dealer who was rated the #1 TYM dealer in the USA is also a top 10 Kioti dealer. I don't think you would go wrong either way. Make sure you compare tractor weights, 3pt and FEL lifting capacities and PTO hp. Easy access to service would also be on my list to look at. Good luck and enjoy which ever machine you decide on.

 

[coobie]

Rural King sells rebranded TYMs with a longer waranty.

might be something worth considering.

I would never buy a new tractor at a big box store.IMHO service might be a nightmare.

 

[Groo]

I would never buy a new tractor at a big box store.IMHO service might be a nightmare.

It is definately a risk, and one I mentioned in anther thread. I believe it went sour for Cabellas tractor owners. I would definately read throught the waranty paperwork before buying.

 

[TractorNH]

Looks like 2 pretty good choices. Kioti is a better established brand but TYM seems to be coming on strong. You don't hear much negative on either brand. I think I would look hard at the TYM.

TYM has actually been around almost as long as Kioti (Daedong) and both are Korean companies and both have been building tractors for 60-70 years. TYM builds tractors for a lot of other "brands" that just put their names on them but haven't been as quick to develop dealerships selling the TYM branded tractors. TYM also builds the Mahindra 2500 and 2600 series, though the Mahidnra's have the Mahindra no-DPF engine.

 

[Ritothebull]

The only tractor I would buy out of Asia is a Kubota, all the other brands have lousy dealer service and many of the dealers don't last long. At least around here, they seem to come and go a lot, but the Kubota, Deere and Massey dealers have been around a long time and do well.

 

[Groo]

The only tractor I would buy out of Asia is a Kubota, all the other brands have lousy dealer service and many of the dealers don't last long. At least around here, they seem to come and go a lot, but the Kubota, Deere and Massey dealers have been around a long time and do well.

Its all regional;
several Kubota dealers have come and gone around here, and the current closest one has a crap service dept.
The Deere dealer wouldn't return a call, and I have not idea were the nearest Massy dealer might be.

 

[EddieWalker]

No real opinion on either brand, but I am curious why you want a hydrostat transmission for open land and brush hogging? The advantage to hydrostat is that you can change directions quickly, which is nice for loader work. Pickup up dirt and dumping it in a small area. Really nice with forklifts and bull dozers, but not what I'd want for working land. They also burn more fuel, which might not be a concern with most small tractors rarely doing 100 hours in a year.

 

[Ritothebull]

Its all regional;
several Kubota dealers have come and gone around here, and the current closest one has a crap service dept.
The Deere dealer wouldn't return a call, and I have not idea were the nearest Massy dealer might be.

That may be so but it sure seems like most of the bitchen I here about crummy dealers on these forms are usually these new imported tractor brands.

 

[TractorNH]

That may be so but it sure seems like most of the bitchen I here about crummy dealers on these forms are usually these new imported tractor brands.

I looked at the 1700 series cab tractors and if I remember correctly they were Iseki tractors with Mitsubishi engines.

 

[Groo]

No real opinion on either brand, but I am curious why you want a hydrostat transmission for open land and brush hogging? The advantage to hydrostat is that you can change directions quickly, which is nice for loader work. Pickup up dirt and dumping it in a small area. Really nice with forklifts and bull dozers, but not what I'd want for working land. They also burn more fuel, which might not be a concern with most small tractors rarely doing 100 hours in a year.

Yanmar style HST(forget what they call it) should give hydro efficency nearing gear drive.

 

[Tractorable]

Yanmar style HST(forget what they call it) should give hydro efficency nearing gear drive.

Yanmar iHMT (integrated hydro-mechanical transmission) is on the YT347/359 tractors. Puts more power to the ground and PTO than an HST and is nearly as easy to use. It’s also a removable cartridge style transmission that does not require the tractor to be split if it ever needs to be serviced/repaired.

 

[paulfun9]

That may be so but it sure seems like most of the bitchen I here about crummy dealers on these forms are usually these new imported tractor brands.

I would have to say your only reading a limited amount of posts then!