cary on 7k trailer... real capacity?

   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #51  
Dont know why we are arguing now about dump trucks.

Dont know much about them.....But when I call up the trucking place to get some gravel hauled.....his "big" trucks have 3 drop axles.....those he brings me ~25t loads on.

His smaller truck only has 1 drop axle.....21tons at a time on that.

Trucks with no drop (3-axle).....18t.

The notion that a fullsized 3-axle dump truck running around at max load with 10t.....laughable.

I am glad you trust him, with those weight claims on those axles I sure wouldn't.

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I would question the tare weight of the above listing. Probably without fuel, tow chain, triangles or anything else. If your gravel company claims to be bringing you 21 tons on 4 axles, it might be time to look for an honest provider. The following quote is from superdumps.com selling super-solo dump trucks.

"Notice: The Federal Bridge Law (FBL) and Federal Bridge Formula (FBF) apply to all interstate and federal highways across the nation, and many states have adopted them state-wide. We'll often refer to these federal regulations as simply "FBL" or "FBF". Expand the Federal Bridge Law panel above for detailed information on the federal regulations.

Ohio Vehicle Weight Limits
Quick Summary / Synopsis for Dump Trucks
Ohio has adopted the FBF state-wide."

Washington adopted the FBF also. Drove dump truck for 14 years so I have a little experience on the subject of dump truck can legally haul. A 4 axle truck can gross about 55,500, give or take a thousand depending on length overall. The tare weight is going to be about 24,000 to 27,000 depending on frame strength, aluminum vs steel box, etc. Do the math and see if you can make 42,000 pounds (21 tons) fit on a four axle truck. There are lots of ways to bump scale weight if the company is dishonest; His scale can be tared wrong either unintentionally or intentionally, his loader operator can put his bucket in the box while the truck is on the scale, scale ticket may be hand written with false info, etc. Since the person receiving a load of gravel has no way of verifying the weight, a dishonest operator can say his load weighs whatever he wants.
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #52  
Done all the time around here. So I don't know what your beef is.

Trucker has a fleet of many. He's an independent company. I get handed the actual slip from the quarry. No cheating on anything.
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #53  
Yeah okay whatever you say. 42000 on a truck that is legal to 56000 or so. I just haven't seen any #14000 4 axle dump trucks. Like I said, Im glad you trust him.
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #54  
Yeah okay whatever you say. 42000 on a truck that is legal to 56000 or so. I just haven't seen any #14000 4 axle dump trucks. Like I said, Im glad you trust him.
I am fairly certain that in the case of the truck I was thinking of, there was something to do with being grandfathered in before some Bridge law came into effect. As I recall, he was only good in NY, not out of state.
It was a 4 axle truck with a dumping flat bed on it (it might have been split so one part dumped in the rest of it was fixed), the tare weight was almost 26000#. The highest gross weight I remember was a little over 74,500#, and he claimed to be legal to 80,000#.

Aaron Z
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #55  
No one around here hauls 10 tons on a 4 axel truck. People haul that all the time in single rear axle trucks. The city hauls over 5 tons in their F-450 and F-550 trucks. I think a 4 axel is good for over 70,000 here. A guy that hauled some dirt for me has several 4 axel trucks that he claims legal with 21-22 tons depending on which truck.
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #56  
A single- post TBN member asks a question about a 7K# trailer and disappears. 6 pages later guys from 3000 miles away are disputing scale tickets they have never seen. Laws vary from state to state. If not, explain why I see more 5 axle straight trucks on a 16 mile commute in N.C. than I did in 57 years in NY?
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #57  
A single- post TBN member asks a question about a 7K# trailer and disappears. 6 pages later guys from 3000 miles away are disputing scale tickets they have never seen. Laws vary from state to state. If not, explain why I see more 5 axle straight trucks on a 16 mile commute in N.C. than I did in 57 years in NY?

I suspected the guy was tooling with us when I saw that first post. Doesn't seem serious.
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #59  
Here’s a load I hauled on my dually. It’s pine so not epically overloaded. IMG_4519.JPG
 
   / cary on 7k trailer... real capacity? #60  
Just read this......I will never get this time back......wasted...
 

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