Dozer vs. Bulldozer - What do you call it?

[MossRoad]

Not really.

Calling a different brand of facial tissue "Kleenex" is calling the same thing by, a brand name. Either way, it's still the same product.

Tarmac, is not the same product, by a different name.

No one calls concrete, asphalt, just because it's used the same way. It's not the same thing, and people generally know that.

That's why people go along with "Tarmac", they don't realize, it's not the same thing as asphalt. And, the media feeds their ignorance, buy using "Tarmac" every chance they get.

Whether people Like it or not, it's not "Tarmac".

No, it's not tarmac, the product, it's tarmac, the paved area where airplanes park. It's a word with dual meaning, but spelled and pronounced the same. A HOMONYM.

Like grouse.............

 

[ray66v]

No, it's not tarmac, the product, it's tarmac, the paved area where airplanes park. It's a word with dual meaning, but spelled and pronounced the same. A HOMONYM.

Like grouse.............

The paved area where airplanes park is actually called the "ramp".

If you tell the air traffic controller, you want to taxi to the tarmac, he, or she, is going to tell you to call them back when you know where you want to go.

You would do just as well, to tell them you want to taxi to the strudel.

 

[MossRoad]

Why would they call it an onion????

 

[MossRoad]

The paved area where airplanes park is actually called the "ramp".

If you tell the air traffic controller, you want to taxi to the tarmac, he, or she, is going to tell you to call them back when you know where you want to go.

You would do just as well, to tell them you want to taxi to the strudel.

Actually, the ramp is for pre-flight activities only, and you park on the apron. Both are called the tarmac, as generally accepted by a statistical 100% of society. And why do they call it a ramp when its generally flat? A ramp is a tilted plane. Granted, the ramp is graded slightly for drainage, but it's still generally flat.

(homonym count up to 8, maybe 9)

 

[bcp]

Bulldozers in the news:




Bruce

 

[ray66v]

Actually, the ramp is for pre-flight activities only,

Really? Please show your source for this.

Every time I land at a controlled airport, If I'm stopping there, the controller tells me to, "Taxi to the ramp, for parking". I may have to inform them of their error.

and you park on the apron. Both are called the tarmac, as generally accepted by a statistical 100% of society. And why do they call it a ramp when its generally flat? A ramp is a tilted plane. Granted, the ramp is graded slightly for drainage, but it's still generally flat.

(homonym count up to 8, maybe 9)

You can take up your complaints about the word "ramp" with the FAA.

You seem to want to debate the fact, that some people call all airport pavement tarmac. That was my premise from the be beginning.

That there is no "Tarmac" at an airport. That's another fact.

 

[oosik]

ATTENTION - ATTENTION Cleanup on isle #5. Bring the BULL-dozer.

 

[MossRoad]

RAMP
In the United States, the word ramp is an older term for an area where pre-flight activities were done; an apron was any area for parking and maintenance. Passenger gates are the main feature of a terminal ramp. The word apron is the ICAO and FAA terminology (the word ramp is not), so the word ramp is not used with this meaning outside the US, Canada, Maldives, and the Philippines.

 

[MossRoad]

If you want to get technical, in the US, apron and ramp are considered the same thing. However, the official term is Apron. Therefore, anyone that uses the term ramp is techincally, officially, incorrect.

Here's a link to the FAA document library.
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC 120-57A.pdf

You can also read this Pilot/Controller Glossary...
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/pcg_4-03-14.pdf

"APRON− A defined area on an airport or heliport intended to accommodate aircraft for purposes of loading or unloading passengers or cargo, refueling, parking, or maintenance. With regard to seaplanes, a ramp is used for access to the apron from the water.
(See ICAO term APRON.)
APRON [ICAO]− A defined area, on a land aerodrome, intended to accommodate aircraft for purposes of loading or unloading passengers, mail or cargo, refueling, parking or maintenance."

"RAMP−
(See APRON.)"

That glossary also mentions several uses of the word TARMAC...

"TARMAC DELAY− The holding of an aircraft on the ground either before departure or after landing with no opportunity for its passengers to deplane."

"TARMAC DELAY AIRCRAFT− An aircraft whose pilot−in−command has requested to taxi to the ramp, gate, or alternate deplaning area to comply with the Three−hour Tarmac Rule."

"TARMAC DELAY REQUEST− A request by the pilot−in−command to taxi to the ramp, gate, or alternate deplaning location to comply with the Three−hour Tarmac Rule."

"THREE−HOUR TARMAC RULE Rule that relates to Department of Transportation (DOT) requirements placed on airlines when tarmac delays are anticipated to reach 3 hours."

So even the FAA uses the word TARMAC.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Maybe like asking for a Coke and being upset when Pepsi is served?

That is a good thing...

All airports are paved with good intentions.