Deere 3038e won't start, just a click, but not the good click.

[ericstac]

from another post. "If you really want to eliminate the thermistor, my suggestion would be to change to what Deere used on the x55 tractors like my 755. The pull-in coil is simply connected to the starter. Solenoid has power as long as you crank the engine, and goes away when it starts and you turn the key back from Start position." https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-owning-operating/181040-thermistor-replacement-3.html this will work, I'm just an MSEE, but this looks good..

wow okay I'm reading thru it now.. so yall are really thinking its a bad thermistor?

Something isn't right with my dash, but its been happening for years. I know I've had other lights come on along with the LCD screen when I turn the key on but the last couple years or so everything has pretty much gone away.. I have the engine oil light that comes on now with the power turned on and i know i have the pto warning light that will come on when im running it.. also the RPM guage works 60% of the time.

is this another sign I need to replace the cluster (which includes the thermistor apparently).. or could it be I need to remove and clean it all up real good and reinstall and it will all work again?

 

[radios1]

wow okay I'm reading thru it now.. so yall are really thinking its a bad thermistor?

Something isn't right with my dash, but its been happening for years. I know I've had other lights come on along with the LCD screen when I turn the key on but the last couple years or so everything has pretty much gone away.. I have the engine oil light that comes on now with the power turned on and i know i have the pto warning light that will come on when im running it.. also the RPM guage works 60% of the time.

is this another sign I need to replace the cluster (which includes the thermistor apparently).. or could it be I need to remove and clean it all up real good and reinstall and it will all work again?

do the modification, it's better, but a tractor sitting outside in the rain for years, like yours is going to have rust /corrosion problems from the moisture, clean up what you can, and maybe most/all instruments will work..

 

[gimmodog]

if there are occasional problems with the instrument cluster then you are having electrical connection problems sometimes making sometimes not. take apart all the electrical connections you can find clean them coat them with dielectric grease and reconnect. This may be the only problem or may not but still needs to be done

 

[ericstac]

do the modification, it's better, but a tractor sitting outside in the rain for years, like yours is going to have rust /corrosion problems from the moisture, clean up what you can, and maybe most/all instruments will work..

I'm not 100% sure what that modification is lol.

 

[atsah]

if there are occasional problems with the instrument cluster then you are having electrical connection problems sometimes making sometimes not. take apart all the electrical connections you can find clean them coat them with dielectric grease and reconnect. This may be the only problem or may not but still needs to be done

I would do this first, it's cheap and could be a contributing factor..

 

[radios1]

I'm not 100% sure what that modification is lol.

connect the pull-in coil of the fuel solenoid to the starter small red lead on the starter solenoid instead of going through the thermistor circuit. it will then get power only when the starter solenoid is activated, which is what is needed, once the tractor starts running, that will be disengaged, and the run coil will stay activated until you shut the ignition off, thus stopping the engine..

 

[searcyfarms]

ok radios, I think I got it, now if I had a tractor to do the mod to ;-) wish this guy was closer id run over n help him - I know the maddening part of trying to get something to work and beating my head :mur:

 

[radios1]

ok radios, I think I got it, now if I had a tractor to do the mod to ;-) wish this guy was closer id run over n help him - I know the maddening part of trying to get something to work and beating my head :mur:

yeah, I used to enjoy things like this, which would only take a few minutes in this case, too far away though, and with a bad back injury, I have to be very careful how I travel, a little bump, and extreme pain!..

 

[ericstac]

ok guys a little update. I went ahead and ordered a new cluster to fix this issue but then between Thanksgiving, vacations, bad weather and junk I couldn't get around to pulling the steering wheel and replacing it.

Today I decided to get out there and the darn thing turned over lol. Battery was a little tired so I hooked up a charge to it for a little bit and sure enough it finally fired up after a few cranks.. purring like it never had an issue now. Just ran for about 15 minutes and stopped and started it about 5 times to see if I could get it to not start but it starts every time.

So besides just leaving it alone for a couple months in the weather one big difference is today its a chilly and wet 50 degrees and back when it wasn't working it was 90 degrees and hot..

Would this have something to do with the thermistor?

I'm happy my deere is working but its too dang muddy to do any work lol. I'm going to start it daily and see if I can reproduce, trying to decide if I should return the $337 cluster or just replace it.

LCD with hours is working on mine, but I did notice the green left turn light is slightly illuminated on the panel at all times, so something is squirrelly with it.

 

[atsah]

ok guys a little update. I went ahead and ordered a new cluster to fix this issue but then between Thanksgiving, vacations, bad weather and junk I couldn't get around to pulling the steering wheel and replacing it.

Today I decided to get out there and the darn thing turned over lol. Battery was a little tired so I hooked up a charge to it for a little bit and sure enough it finally fired up after a few cranks.. purring like it never had an issue now. Just ran for about 15 minutes and stopped and started it about 5 times to see if I could get it to not start but it starts every time.

So besides just leaving it alone for a couple months in the weather one big difference is today its a chilly and wet 50 degrees and back when it wasn't working it was 90 degrees and hot..

Would this have something to do with the thermistor?

I'm happy my deere is working but its too dang muddy to do any work lol. I'm going to start it daily and see if I can reproduce, trying to decide if I should return the $337 cluster or just replace it.

LCD with hours is working on mine, but I did notice the green left turn light is slightly illuminated on the panel at all times, so something is squirrelly with it.

I have seen cold weather stiffen up an otherwise collapsed fuel line. Run the tractor for an hour so that the warm fuel coming back to the tank from the return line mixes and runs back through the lines, the hour should give the line time to warm and collapse again and not start if you have a line issue. You may have more than one issue.

Good luck..