Skidding winch

[4570Man]

A logging winch is an investment, if you decide to sell it, you get most of your money back!

I could have spent the time building something halfazzed too, but it's a no brainer to buy something that actually WORKS "efficiently" and has some RESALE when I'm done with it!

Once you have one and use it, you will wonder why you didn't buy it waaaaay sooner!

SR

I don’t disagree, heck it’s the same logic I’ve preached when the idea to build equipment comes up, but that’s a lot of money to skid some logs. I’m seeing prices of like $7k for the medium size model. That’s seems ridiculous for what they are.

 

[WranglerX]

Would definitely be low production work for some guys but it would spee things up for me. Right now Its either dragging trees out with the quad to an area where I can block them up or just simply blocking them up where they lay and hauling them out in the quad trailer.

Are you saying instead of mechanically or physically engaging the idler pulley to create the winching, have tension on the belts all the time and have something to mechanically disengage the winching. If so the problem I could see in that would be if the disengaging mechanism failed there would be no way of stopping the winch in an emergency except to disengage the tractor pto.
Unless I am misunderstanding you

Almost... Have manual control of belt (lever) and a override that will counter manual lever if hook/chain are about to go into guide pulley and bind up system and cause damage or destruction of winch and power train... Mostly for people whose brain tend to wander off during boring operations...

Dale

 

[Industrial Toys]

Wander Off? I can't even get my brain to show up!

 

[WranglerX]

Itç—´ way too delicate and too small to hold enough cable for a skidding winch.

HUH... My 10,000 pound electric winch will skid my 4500 pound Jeep across the ground with all four wheels locked....

Same mechanics just PTO drive instead of electric motor...

And you don't need 3/8 cable as on my winch so one could use a smaller diameter, as it is I have about 90 feet of 3/8 working cable probably could go smaller cable on winch drum for more capacity if I were just pulling out logs instead of rescuing flat landers that are in trouble once they get their $60,000 status symbol FWD rigs off pavement...

Dale

 

[WranglerX]

Wander Off? I can't even get my brain to show up!

At times I have has same issues...

Dale

 

[Stomper]

I don稚 disagree, heck it痴 the same logic I致e preached when the idea to build equipment comes up, but that痴 a lot of money to skid some logs. I知 seeing prices of like $7k for the medium size model. That痴 seems ridiculous for what they are.

Exactly my thoughts, hence this topic........but today I thought I would call the Wallenstien reps in my area to see what their skidding winches are actually worth. For my kubota L2501 he suggested the FX40 and I was surprised to hear the price of $2100. I was expecting double that.
Also checked on the WP 840 firewood processor. It's the design I am going to model mine around. At $8500 I WILL be building that'

FX4 | Skidding Winches | | Wallenstein Outdoor Power Equipment

WP84 | Firewood Processors | WP8 Series - Trailer | Wallenstein Outdoor Power Equipment

 

[John_Mc]

I don't disagree, heck it's the same logic I've preached when the idea to build equipment comes up, but that's a lot of money to skid some logs. I'm seeing prices of like $7k for the medium size model. That seems ridiculous for what they are.

The Uniforest 35M (rated at 7700# pull. I own its predecessor, the 35E) is currently selling for $2,995. The 55M (12,000# pull - slightly larger than a Farmi 501) sells for $4,795. Certainly not cheap, but that 35E has been worth it for me.

Looking at Farmi Prices advertised by a dealer a few hours from me in NY, he's advertising the Farmi 351 at $4500, and the 501 at $5500. I used to have a local dealer just a few miles down the road, but they seem to have dropped Farmi. They had no complaints about the quality: they loved them. The local dealer (who sold a LOT of Farmi winches) stopped carrying them because Farmi really screwed up big time in their supply chain and they were just about impossible to get for an extended period (a year or more, if I recall). After missing several sales due to no inventory, he picked up a competing brand.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

$3,000.00 and it will hold it's value over the years... Then when you want to sell it, you will get most of your money back!

Meanwhile, you will have one that works NOW, and won't be working halfazzed over it's life span...

Did I mention the resale value of a FACTORY winch???

SR

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have never been a fan of re-inventing the wheel. Manufacturers have built countless versions and much product. They have figured out, what works and what doesn't. It's why I don't even like copies and clones. They don't know what type of steel was best determined, only over time, for certain parts. Like the Chinese and Mennonites copying other peoples stuff. Sure, you can cut out similar looking parts on a laser and weld them together. And then, the shiny paint. There is more to quality than that.

 

[4570Man]

$3,000.00 and it will hold it's value over the years... Then when you want to sell it, you will get most of your money back!

Meanwhile, you will have one that works NOW, and won't be working halfazzed over it's life span...

Did I mention the resale value of a FACTORY winch???

SR

I hope they’re better at building winches than a website because it sucks. I had to use eBay to look for prices and it was like $7000 for a medium sized one. 3 grand isn’t awful. I can understand the value and I’d put buy one if I was trying to selectively cut timber. I’ve always had an abundance of firewood just taking the easy to get stuff. And I’ve never cut a healthy tree that didn’t need to come down for another reason for firewood.

 

[goeduck]

The Uniforest 35M (rated at 7700# pull. I own its predecessor, the 35E) is currently selling for $2,995. The 55M (12,000# pull - slightly larger than a Farmi 501) sells for $4,795. Certainly not cheap, but that 35E has been worth it for me.

The Hudson website mentions free or $100 shipping and to call for details. Do you know what the conditions are?

 

[John_Mc]

The Hudson website mentions free or $100 shipping and to call for details. Do you know what the conditions are?

No. They didn't have that deal back when I bought mine. I was thinking of goign to pick it up myself, since it's just a few hours from me, and I pass by that way several times a year. However, I got a brake on shipping from one of their dealers in NH. Turns out he passes within about a mile of my house on the way from the Hud-son facility to his place in NH, so he dropped it off for a whole lot less than what he normally would charge for freight.

Give them a call. They have a dealer in WA, just north of Seattle.

I have to admit, I like the design of the Farmi Winches a bit better than my Uniforest. However, I don;t like it enough better to justify the 40% price premium for the Farmi at the time I bought (which now seems to have climbed to 50%, if the prices I'm seeing from that NY dealer's web site are accurate). At any rate, the only problems I've had with my Uniforest have been minor, and the redesign from the 35E to the 35M addressed both issues, so it is no longer a concern.

 

[searcyfarms]

ok so since im a greenhorn flatlander out here in the midwest im trying to wrap my head around why i would need a logging winch? i burn several cord of wood each year, i get the wood out of the timber in logs and bring it to my house and process if from there. I guess i could see getting a log off the side of a mountain that is too steep for conventional methods, is the ground so soft it wont support a skidder or skid steer, are the trees so close together you cant maneuver around ? i can carry a lot of wood out in one load with my skid steer in logs weaving in/out around trees much faster than one log at a time like some of these videos and these 12 inch logs so help me understand this better

for instance, i can drive my tractor with flatbed trailer 1/2 mile down the road and park it, walk back to the house, drive my skid steer down there, fire up the chainsaw, fell/cut for an hour, load for an hour and have several cords of wood in that time loaded ready to drive back and walk back both machines and unload it in around 3.5 to 4 hours have everything unloaded and put away. I do that about twice a yr and i have enough to last me a full winter. I am processing only dead timber red oak/hickory/locust/hackberry/ash/white oak

what am i missing here? im sure a lot since they are highly sought after, i have a winch on my flatbed to load non function vehicles or drag items up on it and its a lifesaver so if i can do something easier here tell me how i might need a timber winch!!!

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I get by without a winch on my trailer, we all have different needs...

SR

 

[4570Man]

ok so since im a greenhorn flatlander out here in the midwest im trying to wrap my head around why i would need a logging winch? i burn several cord of wood each year, i get the wood out of the timber in logs and bring it to my house and process if from there. I guess i could see getting a log off the side of a mountain that is too steep for conventional methods, is the ground so soft it wont support a skidder or skid steer, are the trees so close together you cant maneuver around ? i can carry a lot of wood out in one load with my skid steer in logs weaving in/out around trees much faster than one log at a time like some of these videos and these 12 inch logs so help me understand this better

for instance, i can drive my tractor with flatbed trailer 1/2 mile down the road and park it, walk back to the house, drive my skid steer down there, fire up the chainsaw, fell/cut for an hour, load for an hour and have several cords of wood in that time loaded ready to drive back and walk back both machines and unload it in around 3.5 to 4 hours have everything unloaded and put away. I do that about twice a yr and i have enough to last me a full winter. I am processing only dead timber red oak/hickory/locust/hackberry/ash/white oak

what am i missing here? im sure a lot since they are highly sought after, i have a winch on my flatbed to load non function vehicles or drag items up on it and its a lifesaver so if i can do something easier here tell me how i might need a timber winch!!!

I really need a winch on my GN trailer. But it’s close to $1000 for a winch and battery’s and other needed supplies. I’ve got a 12,000 pound hydraulic winch laying in the shop that I’ve been trying to figure out how to power without being too clunky.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I really need a winch on my GN trailer. But it痴 close to $1000 for a wince and battery痴 and other needed supplies. I致e got a 12,000 pound hydraulic winch laying in the shop that I致e been trying to figure out how to power without being too clunky.

Your post made me "wince"... HA HA HA

Hooked on Phonics is your friend... lol

SR

 

[4570Man]

Double standards? Oh wait, you’re perfect so carry on.

 

[goeduck]

ok so since im a greenhorn flatlander out here in the midwest im trying to wrap my head around why i would need a logging winch? i burn several cord of wood each year, i get the wood out of the timber in logs and bring it to my house and process if from there. I guess i could see getting a log off the side of a mountain that is too steep for conventional methods, is the ground so soft it wont support a skidder or skid steer, are the trees so close together you cant maneuver around ? i can carry a lot of wood out in one load with my skid steer in logs weaving in/out around trees much faster than one log at a time like some of these videos and these 12 inch logs so help me understand this better

The land is certainly not flat around here, a tractor can not climb all of my slopes, but those slopes grow trees very well.

Our forests are not something that you can easily drive through, there is a lot of undergrowth and fallen trees rotting away, not to mention the slope.

Our trees are commonly too close together to drive between until the trees are very mature and once they are that mature, they are too big to work with (at least for my equipment).

 

[MossRoad]

ok so since im a greenhorn flatlander out here in the midwest im trying to wrap my head around why i would need a logging winch? i burn several cord of wood each year, i get the wood out of the timber in logs and bring it to my house and process if from there. I guess i could see getting a log off the side of a mountain that is too steep for conventional methods, is the ground so soft it wont support a skidder or skid steer, are the trees so close together you cant maneuver around ? i can carry a lot of wood out in one load with my skid steer in logs weaving in/out around trees much faster than one log at a time like some of these videos and these 12 inch logs so help me understand this better

for instance, i can drive my tractor with flatbed trailer 1/2 mile down the road and park it, walk back to the house, drive my skid steer down there, fire up the chainsaw, fell/cut for an hour, load for an hour and have several cords of wood in that time loaded ready to drive back and walk back both machines and unload it in around 3.5 to 4 hours have everything unloaded and put away. I do that about twice a yr and i have enough to last me a full winter. I am processing only dead timber red oak/hickory/locust/hackberry/ash/white oak

what am i missing here? im sure a lot since they are highly sought after, i have a winch on my flatbed to load non function vehicles or drag items up on it and its a lifesaver so if i can do something easier here tell me how i might need a timber winch!!!

You're not missing anything. You don't need one. Now if you want one, that's different. But you don't need one.

 

[goeduck]

You're not missing anything. You don't need one. Now if you want one, that's different. But you don't need one.

I do not NEED most things that I have. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

But I never let that stop me