Skidding winch

[plumbstraight]

The electric works well, my hydraulic works better. I used to build pto winches, wish that koenig still made winches.

 

[Industrial Toys]

My tractor is tied up with a chipper so having a 3ph winch is not an option. I want something for the front of my wheel loader. Thanks for the video, it's actually the first time I have ever seen a 3ph logging winch in action. Impressive.

 

[Rustyiron]

Thanks. I wonder if you could get that speed and power out of a hydraulic (affordable) winch.

Depends on what you view as "affordable" along with your log size. Ramsey has a 8000# hyd planetary winch that runs around a ft./second for around $1200. Slow compared to pto winches but on my rocky & previously timbered (stumps) property, I'd get in trouble or break something at 2+ feet a second. Like anything, there are clear advantages to each. One is the speed & cable capacity (pto) vs. having reverse (huge in my use). I'll get jammed up against something and moving the valve lever is much simpler than mounting the tractor and backing up. MileMarker makes a 2 speed hyd. winch that the military put's on the Humvees that also has a decent line speed but iirc the high (fast) speed is greatly reduced in power but for a firewood cutter hauling smaller stems or thinning might just a good economical fit.

 

[John_Mc]

Depends on what you view as "affordable" along with your log size. Ramsey has a 8000# hyd planetary winch that runs around a ft./second for around $1200. Slow compared to pto winches but on my rocky & previously timbered (stumps) property, I'd get in trouble or break something at 2+ feet a second. Like anything, there are clear advantages to each. One is the speed & cable capacity (pto) vs. having reverse (huge in my use). I'll get jammed up against something and moving the valve lever is much simpler than mounting the tractor and backing up. MileMarker makes a 2 speed hyd. winch that the military put's on the Humvees that also has a decent line speed but iirc the high (fast) speed is greatly reduced in power but for a firewood cutter hauling smaller stems or thinning might just a good economical fit.

You don't have to mount the tractor and back up to remove tension from a PTO driven logging winch, just release the brake/clutch and the cable free-spools out.

 

[CobyRupert]

Depends on what you view as "affordable" along with your log size. Ramsey has a 8000# hyd planetary winch that runs around a ft./second for around $1200. Slow compared to pto winches but on my rocky & previously timbered (stumps) property, I'd get in trouble or break something at 2+ feet a second. Like anything, there are clear advantages to each. One is the speed & cable capacity (pto) vs. having reverse (huge in my use). I'll get jammed up against something and moving the valve lever is much simpler than mounting the tractor and backing up.

I don't follow.
With a PTO winch when you stop pulling (i.e. disengage the clutch on the winch that links the tractor's pto to the winch's cable drum) the cable goes slack, (i.e. spool can free-wheel). You can then pull extra cable off the drum, or manually lock the drum so that you can pull the load without the spool unwinding.

I don't see where a hydraulic winch being able to reverse is an advantage. Like George Burns said: "You can't push rope." - but I think he was talking about other problems a 90 year old might have before the blue pill was invented. :laughing:

 

[Rustyiron]

My error on the operation. :confused2: I was thinking of a mechanical winch that does not have the clutch mechanism that a tractor winch has along with a very high mechanical advantage (gearing) like a tow truck boom. Under load you can't throw the free spool lever.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I guess the bigger the drum, the easier it is to pay out line by hand. Can one easily pull out a hundred feet of line by hand on a 3ph logging winch?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I guess the bigger the drum, the easier it is to pay out line by hand. Can one easily pull out a hundred feet of line by hand on a 3ph logging winch?

My wife has no problem doing it and she's built like a woman, not a man... lol

Bigger drum means the wire rope last longer too...

SR

 

[plumbstraight]

You cannot pull the line out of a worm gear winch and if it is tight and if you can't back up the tractor for slack you can't relieve the jawclutch. I used Koenig winches with 36to1 and they would not spool out. I started to use 9to1 gearing in them. they would spool out easily under tractor power to get slack. I had them made with extended shafts on the worm and put a pawl on. I could release when pulling to get slack to undo the chokers. With that gearing they were fast, especially when using high gear in the pto of the yanmar. In a hard pull I would use the 540, easy pulls 1000. I did build a couple 12000lb units with 18to1 and they would spool out also.

 

[Jstpssng]

I guess the bigger the drum, the easier it is to pay out line by hand. Can one easily pull out a hundred feet of line by hand on a 3ph logging winch?

I have a Uniforest 35 and last winter I was routinely pulling out 200+ feet on snowshoes, plus 3-5 choker chains. The only hitch is when you don't have the clutch brake properly adjusted and it locks 1/2 way out, it brings you to a very sudden stop.