Bought a 4310

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I picked up a 420 loader and all the brackets for it for $1200. The loader was missing the bucket cylinders. I am going to try and retrofit some 2" cylinders on the lift and bucket to increase the strength and height. Planning to do another thread on that.

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This tractor has worn out front tires and the RR is cracked in the outer sidewall and between the treads. Cracks on the sidewall are symmetrical and go from the rim towards the tread all the way around about every 8 to 10 inches.

I saw these guys when I was comparing rebuild/buy new cylinders. I rebuilt. So I can't vouch for these guys.

Magister Hydraulics

 

[TractorGuy]

Looking better by the day. Did you buy the aftermarket hood? Or the high dollar stock hood?

If you bought aftermarket, how well did it fit?

I bought the generic hood/cowl set from FLIP. It fits okay. The cowl lines up perfect with the side panels but the hood is about a 1/4" mismatch all the way around. (EDIT: Looking at earlier pics the new hood fits just like the old but I don't know if it had an OEM hood on it to begin with?) It's not something that bothers me and may well be the way the factory hood would fit. The fuel door doesn't snap in very positive and was bouncing up and down. I stuck some small pieces of velcro on the rest pads to keep it down. The set was $358 shipped.

It didn't come with the foam pieces that stick under the hood on top of the fuel tank. I was able to reuse the one that was on my old one but I may order a new set from JD.

 

[TractorGuy]

I saw these guys when I was comparing rebuild/buy new cylinders. I rebuilt. So I can't vouch for these guys.

Magister Hydraulics

I saw them too but didn't realize they were in USA with USA stock. I just ordered a cylinder form them to check fitment. Prices are similar to Surplus Center but free shipping will save money.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I saw them too but didn't realize they were in USA with USA stock. I just ordered a cylinder form them to check fitment. Prices are similar to Surplus Center but free shipping will save money.

I was thinking they were made in Ukraine? They are on sale I saw yesterday! Hope you can get one that fits. I have a 430 FEL and I just rebuilt the bucket curl cylinder. It has a 2" (50mm) bore.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I bought the generic hood/cowl set from FLIP. It fits okay. The cowl lines up perfect with the side panels but the hood is about a 1/4" mismatch all the way around. It's not something that bothers me and may well be the way the factory hood would fit. The fuel door doesn't snap in very positive and was bouncing up and down. I stuck some small pieces of velcro on the rest pads to keep it down. The set was $358 shipped.

It didn't come with the foam pieces that stick under the hood on top of the fuel tank. I was able to reuse the one that was on my old one but I may order a new set from JD.

I've already fiberglassed underneath the cowling that goes around the instrument panel. I need to do the hood the same. I've lost my fuel door lid some time ago too. I want to say I priced it from Deere at around $1000 for the plastic. Considering it has spent 95% of it's whole life outdoors, and it's 16 years old, I guess that's not too bad. It has survived many strikes from branches falling off the FEL....

 

[TractorGuy]

I was thinking they were made in Ukraine? They are on sale I saw yesterday! Hope you can get one that fits.

That through me off too but when I clicked on your link it popped up the sale on "in stock" cylinders and I saw they had a Newark NJ address. I hope I'm not waiting for the cylinder I ordered to come from the Ukraine.

I have a 430 FEL and I just rebuilt the bucket curl cylinder. It has a 2" (50mm) bore.

I'm thinking the only difference between the 420 and 430 loaders is the cylinder bore. I read another thread and watched the OPs videos on how he upgraded a 420 loader to 2" bore cylinders. He bought some odd cylinders from Surplus Center and did some fairly intense modifications to make them work. I'm hoping to just trim the cross tube on one end and adapt the hoses or make new hoses.

 

[TractorGuy]

I received the cylinder from Magistar today and it looks like it will work okay. When I went back to order 3 more they had gone up so I called to see if they would match last weeks price and they did. Hope these Ukraine cylinders don't bite me in the ***. I will have $416 in four new cylinders. Will have to adapt or make new hoses but that was going to happen any way I went.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Keep us posted. Let us know if the cylinders work.
If your hoses are 15 years old, you are not wasting money replacing them.

 

[beenthere]

15 yr old hoses?? Hmmm? Mine are 20 yrs old, and have no reason I see to replace them...

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

15 yr old hoses?? Hmmm? Mine are 20 yrs old, and have no reason I see to replace them...

Yes, many can go the years if stored indoors. I'm just saying it's not wasted money. Usage and strain also determine longevity.

A friend of many online here died when he had something held up in the air with his FEL, and I believe a hose broke and it fell on it and killed him.