Need some tire advice / recomendations

ddbackhoe · Jan 10, 2019

neopheous said:
Well, I need to verify the model, as the 10" rims were the original, so it is probably not the UT128... I will look this evening and correct that. However, speaking of rims and weight limits… I assume, this is just like axles... so if you have rims that are rated at 900#'s, that means you should be able to carry a load of 1,800#'s if a single axle, correct? The reason I ask, is b/c the highest weight rating I seen on 10 or 12" rims were like 1250#'s and this trailer is supposedly designed to carry up to 1,660#'s.

My mistake 20.5 x 8.0 - 10 where the rim width is 8” and the tire diameter is 10”, right?
http://www.bigriversltd.com/files/6313/6656/1212/UT128_-_2004.pdf

ddbackhoe · Jan 10, 2019

TMGT said:
Your failure seems odd, I think we are just trying to help you figure out if this is an anomaly due to bad parts or an inherent problem of the tire type/size.

:thumbsup: So, if my entry is correct, e-trailer is wrong. They recommend the wrong tire for that application.
Snowmobile Trailer Tires to Replace 2.5x8-1 TIres | etrailer.com Now look at the page for that tire and it says this tire fits a 10 x 6 wheel.:shocked:
Loadstar K399 Bias Trailer Tire - 25/65-1 - Load Range E Kenda Tires and Wheels AM1HP56

TMGT · Jan 10, 2019

ddbackhoe said:
My mistake 20.5 x 8.0 - 10 where the rim width is 8” and the tire diameter is 10”, right?
http://www.bigriversltd.com/files/6313/6656/1212/UT128_-_2004.pdf

Yup, 20.5 OD, 8.0 width on a 10in dia wheel

neopheous · Jan 10, 2019

TMGT said:
Correct, it's the sum of the wheels capacity.
Your failure seems odd, I think we are just trying to help you figure out if this is an anomaly due to bad parts or an inherent problem of the tire type/size.

The fact that you were able to recover lugnuts and 2 were together makes me wonder, I've had lugs back off and even studs break, I've rarely found a lug much less multiple lugs together.

My worst was a F550 pulling a gooseneck with about 12k lbs on the trucks rear axle, all 8 studs on the left rear broke, at 60+mph. Needless to say I didn't recover any lug nuts, or the outer wheel/tire!

Ok, good to know, thanks.

Yes, and I actually believe if I would have been able to walk both sides of the freeway from the point that it blew to where I pulled over to the side of the road I would have found them all. I was pretty sure I seen at least 2 more on the other side of the freeway, but it was 3 lanes and traffic was fairly heavy so I didn't risk going after them. I had found those 2 plus the 2 that was holding my spare on the holder. So I was able to put 4 on and then drive a 1/2 mile down the road and buy 4 more plus a bearing cap at the local auto parts store before continuing on my way.

neopheous · Jan 10, 2019

ddbackhoe said:
:thumbsup: So, if my entry is correct, e-trailer is wrong. They recommend the wrong tire for that application.
Snowmobile Trailer Tires to Replace 2.5x8-1 TIres | etrailer.com Now look at the page for that tire and it says this tire fits a 10 x 6 wheel.:shocked:
Loadstar K399 Bias Trailer Tire - 25/65-1 - Load Range E Kenda Tires and Wheels AM1HP56

The specs from that tire on eTrailer below says it fits 10" x 6" rims.....

Specs:
Fits: 10" x 6" rims
Tire size: 205/65-10
Section width: 8.4"
Outer diameter (when inflated): 20.4"
Capacity:
Load range: E
Ply rating: 10
Maximum load: 1,650 lbs at 90 psi
Maximum speed: 87 mph (speed rating N)

neopheous · Jan 10, 2019

Here is the info off the tongue..... am I reading this right that I can put a 12 or 13” tire of a 13” rim??

TMGT · Jan 10, 2019

neopheous said:
Here is the info off the tongue..... am I reading this right that I can put a 12 or 13” tire of a 13” rim??
View attachment 586624

It would appear they are optional sizes

ddbackhoe · Jan 11, 2019

neopheous said:
The specs from that tire on eTrailer below says it fits 10" x 6" rims.....

Specs:
Fits: 10" x 6" rims
Tire size: 205/65-10
Section width: 8.4"
Outer diameter (when inflated): 20.4"
Capacity:
Load range: E
Ply rating: 10
Maximum load: 1,650 lbs at 90 psi
Maximum speed: 87 mph (speed rating N)

Right, so what width rim did the trailer have, 6 or 8?

neopheous · Jan 11, 2019

ddbackhoe said:
Right, so what width rim did the trailer have, 6 or 8?

6”

But after finally getting time to actually take a closer look at the rim, I believe the lugs came loose and caused the blowout rather than a tire failure. It appears that the holes in 2 or 3 on the rim were worn out a little oversize.