Never buy a Korean Tractor!! Especially LS or whatever their name is this year.

[ultrarunner]

Mine is now what we call a show tractor... even have it listed on my Antique Auto policy.

It sure does run sweet and scoots right along...

I realize evolution is life... but, I also appreciate clean simple honest design which endures the test of time.

When I put the Jubilee side by side with the Model A the similarity is evident... maybe why so many Model A's have survived 90+ years.

Have pondered what the future holds for anything that can be described as a computer on wheels... the amount of E-Waste I dispose of for the Hospital is staggering at times... once support is gone, most is useless... we have some very expensive medical equipment but the software is no longer supported making the most valuable thing of a $250,000 laser he cabinet and casters...

 

[Trillium Farm]

Then, there's the fact that you bought a pricer tractor. Were you not aware that it was THOUSANDS of dollars cheaper than the snot-colored one? Are you not willing to accept responsibility for your own financial decisions?
Your complaints about LS are irrational, IMHO.
But you wanna complain about a door? Made twelve years ago? For somebody else's branded tractor?? I don't mind people venting but this is just.......

Therein is the problem, people who don't want to admit their own stupidity and always look to blame somebody else for their own lack of foresight. These people couldn't find their way out of a paper bag, but would blame the bag for it.

 

[Avenger]

WOW. I just saw this thread (I don't live on this site), and at first was appalled! The fact that the OP is complaining about a non warrantied part from a different manufacture dealer was just... gahh!!

But as I read though the posts it came apparent that the real thread/thought is the difference in opinion and price tag. Some say that they would rather pay more upfront to ensure better service/parts in the future, while others say they would rather save money now and potentially deal with it later, while yet others say they are all the same tractor.

In my opinion, ya'll correct! If you feel the need to pay for name brand, to get that fuzzy good feeling that you paid more for quality because it physically feels better (think of added weight to electronics), then knock yourself out.
If you wish to save money and buy the cheapest POS your money can buy and deal with future consequences when/if they arise, then good riddance!
If you recognize that ALL these manufactures are made all over the world, and contract with each other to make parts, assemble, and ship each others machines, and you would rather get something you have done your homework on, then great on ya.

It comes down to what makes you happy and fits your needs. For me, I did my research and found that one of the best trusted name brand tractors are actually manufactured by this 'LG Group' called LS. After doing my homework and not simply deciding where to put 10's of Thousands of my dollars based on color or what my friends and family think I need, I bought the LS. Yes, my family are die hard Deere fans "Nothin runs like a Deere. You'll hate that Chinese crap before too long!" is litterly what I was told by one of them, and that just shows the ignorance and marketing at work for the people who believe that the same quality John Deere put into their tractors in the 50's is still the same today. I even worked as a Deere mechanic at a Deere Dealership. They are good tractors, and they suck too!

Now, because I own an LS tractor, which is the Boomer series of New Holland, if in 20 years I need a part, and I could not find it at the LS dealership, I could probably go to New Holland and find it. But I wouldn't get upset if they didn't have it. Especially if that part is easily made by someone else, such as a window or a seat, or a freaking wiper blade. Some modification maybe required, or extra paid for a 'custom' part, but it will still be a working tractor at the end of the day.

Side note on this: My neighbor down the road owns a New Holland Boomer something or other. He thought my tractor was also New Holland. He came over for a beer the other night (I home brew) and we got to discussing tractors (not our usual topic of conversation). He told me that he is broke down currently and need to order parts. His tractor is no longer under warranty and parts are very expensive. I had him call up my LS dealer. He was able to get the EXACT SAME PARTS for a fraction of the price. I mostly stayed out of it, other than pass on the info after he noticed that my "New Holland" actually says LS on the side.

 

[Garandman]

many people today will buy the cheapest junk they can afford, and then, when it breaks down, just scrap it, and buy a new one, possibly a different brand!..

I learned in business long ago that, while you think the people who wanted the absolute cheapest price would be easy to keep happy, the opposite is true.

They want the cheapest price but are the first to complain. This thread is further evidence.

We made the business decision to avoid all low bidder contracts, because we wanted happy customers and a good reputation.

 

[Trillium Farm]

I learned in business long ago that, while you think the people who wanted the absolute cheapest price would be easy to keep happy, the opposite is true. They want the cheapest price but are the first to complain. This thread is further evidence.
We made the business decision to avoid all low bidder contracts, because we wanted happy customers and a good reputation.

Not only that, but they buy the cheapest product and expect the same performance and longevity as that given by more expensive ones.

 

[ArlyA]

And we wonder away further and further for the OP original thought??? An old bubbly of ours ran bicycle shop who I did some work with. I once asked him "why don't you carry and sell the lower end bikes?? His response was to the effect "because they break to often and the customer won't spend the $$ to repair it. Then they complain about it. Its not worth the grief"

Maybe these lower cost machines are the same thing?

Not only that, but they buy the cheapest product and expect the same performance and longevity as that given by more expensive ones.

 

[Username Taken]

And we wonder away further and further for the OP original thought??? An old bubbly of ours ran bicycle shop who I did some work with. I once asked him "why don't you carry and sell the lower end bikes?? His response was to the effect "because they break to often and the customer won't spend the $$ to repair it. Then they complain about it. Its not worth the grief"

Maybe these lower cost machines are the same thing?

The inverse is just as true. Business owners and manufacturers who think their stuff is holy to the point that they're convinced they're doing you a favor by taking your money. And don't mind telling you about it.

Sometimes, as in this case, people just don't understand the business end of...... Business. All they know is what they want. And that's okay. They just need to go somewhere to buy that kind of thing. Bounce them on their knee, demand an absurd profit margin, design it so you can only buy the parts from them and then totally rip your head off when you need them.

It's called the Free Market. I love it. It's the greatest invention in human history. It's like the Peter Principle for consumers...... They rise or sink to their level of incompetence.

 

[DeutzFahr85]

I don't understand this on several levels.

First off, it's not the responsibility of LS to stock parts for a machine they made for somebody else UNDER CONTRACT.

Then, there's the fact that you bought a pricer tractor. Were you not aware that it was THOUSANDS of dollars cheaper than the snot-colored one? Are you not willing to accept responsibility for your own financial decisions?

And why couldn't you have fabricated something for your cab that would have worked? And how did it get broken in the first place? Don't they have glass dealers around you?

Your complaints about LS are irrational, IMHO.

Talk to me when you've got a million dollar machine sitting in a field, broke down, while your crops rot and the snot-colored dealer will get to it when he gets to it. And there's nothing you can do about it because you're electronically locked out of it. Of course, you can always load it up on a low-boy, in pieces, and ship it to the snot-colored dealer and let him work on it there. When he gets around to it.

Or you could demand your PIN Codes (that you paid for) so you can work on the snot-colored machine yourself (or through an Indie Mechanic) and watch him laugh in your face.

But you wanna complain about a door? Made twelve years ago? For somebody else's branded tractor??

I don't mind people venting but this is just.......

Lol. I drove by the same half million dollar green and yellow combine for a month en route to work. Dealer was there 3 different times while he struggled to get 150 acres of corn off. Looked straight off the showroom floor

 

[Streetcar]

Lol. I drove by the same half million dollar green and yellow combine for a month en route to work. Dealer was there 3 different times while he struggled to get 150 acres of corn off. Looked straight off the showroom floor

I had brand new$500000 paver burn up mother board as it is pulling off the dealers trailer. It sat there for over a week

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

The inverse is just as true. Business owners and manufacturers who think their stuff is holy to the point that they're convinced they're doing you a favor by taking your money. And don't mind telling you about it.

Sometimes, as in this case, people just don't understand the business end of...... Business. All they know is what they want. And that's okay. They just need to go somewhere to buy that kind of thing. Bounce them on their knee, demand an absurd profit margin, design it so you can only buy the parts from them and then totally rip your head off when you need them.

It's called the Free Market. I love it. It's the greatest invention in human history. It's like the Peter Principle for consumers...... They rise or sink to their level of incompetence.

So what brand of compact tractor do you think consumers should buy?