3-Point Hitch New Owner CK2610HST- What are you doing with a tow bar this big?

[toukow]

Hello All: Can you please educate me on the uses of a tow bar of this size? How are you using it? I'm getting ready to order from Ken's Bolt-on, so thought I'd ask in case I should add something based on your comments.

I can only see a 1 1/4" shank tow ball or a very large shackle (my 3/4" won't fit, looks like 1" minimum). It seems way too large for a tractor of this size, but then again, maybe I'm missing something as usual.

Thanks, Toukow

 

[CobyRupert]

Use a draw pin to hook it to wagons, implements, etc...that have a tongue that also accepts the draw pin (I believe the tongue would have what they call a clevis hitch type tongue)
Red Handle Hitch Pin 1" x 7-1/2" | Agri Supply 16338

With traditional ag equipment, ball hitches aren’t used. (There was a time when Allis Chalmers had a ball hitch and locking ring system, but I digress).
At tractor speeds, using a draw pin with a clevis type hitch, one doesn’t care about the slop when the pin isn’t exactly the same size as the hole on the drawbar.

 

[CobyRupert]

If you want to use a ball hitch, many people use a cross-drawbar mounted on the 3 point hitch (with the top link providing a way for it not to rotate).
https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Attachments-Trailer-Receiver-Drawbar/dp/B00CNUUU5A
The advantage is you can raise and lower the 3 point hitch to get under the trailer without adjusting the jack stand, and to help getting trailer through a dip without the tongue or back end dragging. The downside is the 3 point hitch has no down force, so if trailer doesn’t have enough tongue weight (especially when going down hills, or pushing it backing up, especially if trailer tire goes into a rut when backing ) the tongue will raise up, with possible bad results.

In a pitch, I have bolted an undersized ball hitch on tractor drawbar with washers. But I wouldn’t trust it day after day not to slide around and eventually loosen the nut.

 

[jeff9366]

The tractor nomenclature for part in picture is rear/center DRAWBAR.
Tractors are designed to PULL. Drawbars need to be heavy.

MORE: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/404017-tractor-three-point-hitch-cross-2.html
Cusor down to Post #14.


To easily attach/remove a tow chain you need a pin clevis grab hook, not a bolt on grab hook. You may need a shim/coupler to make clevis pin fatter.

Tractor Supply Company sells clevis hooks. I presume TSC is in Seattle too. TSC sells shims too.

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[Sparkeee24]

The thickness in part is due to leverage and the length of extension from mounting point under tractor and keeping high tongue weight loads without bending. They are commonly use to RIP stumps out and pull other heavy duty loads. The tractor may have low hp, but good low gearing and torque. Weight and heavy duty are a tractors friend. No need to make that part lighter.

 

[Wagtail]

I use my drawbar with a drop-pin to drag a harrow... not only around my own paddocks but at the local equestrian centre and the local Gun Club range.

 

[rhunt]

A short piece of 1" galv pipe nipple cut to the thickness of that draw bar will just fit in that hole so a 1" pin will fit and have very little slop. That's what I did and it works. Bob

 

[NYCheese]

I've actually been trying to find something (or make something) for the drawbar on my ck3510. I've got an old small utility wagon that I'd like to use to haul firewood, but the clevis tongue on it is too small to fit on the drawbar on the tractor. The drawbar is about 1.5" thick, while the opening on the trailer tongue is only about 1 1/4". I'm trying to avoid cutting and welding on the trailer tongue if I can, but haven't come up with a good solution just yet.

 

[toukow]

Use a draw pin to hook it to wagons, implements, etc...that have a tongue that also accepts the draw pin (I believe the tongue would have what they call a clevis hitch type tongue)drawbar.

OK, that makes sense. My old tractor came with a tow ball installed, so assumed it was the common application.

Tractor Supply Company sells clevis hooks. I presume TSC is in Seattle too. TSC sells shims too.

DELETE THE FORD IN YOUR T-B-N PROFILE. SUBSTITUTE KIOTI.

(I am a Roosevelt High School 'Roughrider', class of 1965.)

Jeesch Jeff, I've had the tractor for 4 days and you want me to forget the old one already? Cut me some slack! I hate the search engine at TSC, but will look. You might be amazed at the prices around your old stomping grounds, and you get a high hazard earthquake zone to boot! Thanks for the nomenclature and link to post.

The thickness in part is due to leverage and the length of extension from mounting point under tractor and keeping high tongue weight loads without bending. They are commonly use to RIP stumps out and pull other heavy duty loads. The tractor may have low hp, but good low gearing and torque. Weight and heavy duty are a tractors friend. No need to make that part lighter.

That looks useful! Is there a particular term for the piece bolted on top, or does it usually come as a complete assembly? I have some 1.25" Dyneema rope with eye which would work with that setup. Thanks!

A short piece of 1" galv pipe nipple cut to the thickness of that draw bar will just fit in that hole so a 1" pin will fit and have very little slop. That's what I did and it works. Bob

Bob, I'm not quite following. How is the adapter held in place? Is it an interference fit?


Thanks all for the education as usual, Toukow

 

[Ranchofla]

I've actually been trying to find something (or make something) for the drawbar on my ck3510. I've got an old small utility wagon that I'd like to use to haul firewood, but the clevis tongue on it is too small to fit on the drawbar on the tractor. The drawbar is about 1.5" thick, while the opening on the trailer tongue is only about 1 1/4". I'm trying to avoid cutting and welding on the trailer tongue if I can, but haven't come up with a good solution just yet.

I took a part from an old trailer hitch (a flat bar of 3/4 steel) and used that since my tractor did not come with a draw bar. You could measure the opening and buy a piece steel to fit it.

Rancho

 

[Amvcane]

Leave the Ford in your profile. Others may direct a question at you knowing that you are familiar with that piece of equipment.

 

[rhunt]

The galvanized bushing I made is an interference fit resulting from the galvanized finish. In my case I had a length of 1 inch galv conduit so that is what I used but for you, an galv nipple would be cheaper and result in the same finished bushing. Bob

 

[bcp]

You don't want a tight fit between drawbar, pin, and clevis hitch if you have any up and down terrain.

Bruce

 

[rhunt]

Bruce, I made the bushing up to reduce slop when I install my 1" shackle and pin. Bob

 

[Ranchofla]

Hello All: Can you please educate me on the uses of a tow bar of this size? How are you using it? I'm getting ready to order from Ken's Bolt-on, so thought I'd ask in case I should add something based on your comments.

I can only see a 1 1/4" shank tow ball or a very large shackle (my 3/4" won't fit, looks like 1" minimum). It seems way too large for a tractor of this size, but then again, maybe I'm missing something as usual.

Thanks, Toukow

My CK20 did not come with a Draw Bar so I improvised and used a tow bar from an old bumper hitch. Made the hole 5/8 and it works fine for pulling stuff.



Rancho

 

[toukow]

My CK20 did not come with a Draw Bar so I improvised and used a tow bar from an old bumper hitch. Made the hole 5/8 and it works fine for pulling stuff.

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Rancho

Thanks Rancho, what you've done would be totally adequate for what I intend on doing.

That said, I found on Ebay the 'offset' shown in Sparkee24's photo for $35 delivered. It has no details other than it's for a 'Massey Ferguson'. No hole diameters or spacing, nothing. Given what I've read on the forum about the lack of standards for three point hitch configuration, I infer it's highly doubtful that it would be a direct fit to my draw bar. Agreed?

Thanks, Toukow

 

[CobyRupert]

I've actually been trying to find something (or make something) for the drawbar on my ck3510. I've got an old small utility wagon that I'd like to use to haul firewood, but the clevis tongue on it is too small to fit on the drawbar on the tractor. The drawbar is about 1.5" thick, while the opening on the trailer tongue is only about 1 1/4". I'm trying to avoid cutting and welding on the trailer tongue if I can, but haven't come up with a good solution just yet.

Isn't the top "hole" of the clevis tongue a different piece of metal than the bottom "hole"? That is, isn't the "hole" that has an offset bolted above or below the "hole" that is part of the tongue? Can't you just unbolt the two pieces and put some spacers (stack some washers in between the "offset "hole" bracket and the tongue, on the bolts that hold them together) to get the extra 1/4" you need?

Thanks Rancho, what you've done would be totally adequate for what I intend on doing.

That said, I found on Ebay the 'offset' shown in Sparkee24's photo for $35 delivered. It has no details other than it's for a 'Massey Ferguson'. No hole diameters or spacing, nothing. Given what I've read on the forum about the lack of standards for three point hitch configuration, I infer it's highly doubtful that it would be a direct fit to my draw bar. Agreed?
Thanks, Toukow

Doesn't that offset go on the trailer/wagon tongue? Typically the trailer/wagon or device being pulled has the "clevis" (2 stacked holes) that go above/below the single hole drawbar of the tractor.

There are standards for 3 point hitch configurations, but that's a different subject than the (fixed) drawbar being talked about here. (unles you're talking about mounting a cross-drawbar on the 3 point hitch. View attachment ISO 730 - 3 Point Linkage.pdf

 

[Ranchofla]

Thanks Rancho, what you've done would be totally adequate for what I intend on doing.

That said, I found on Ebay the 'offset' shown in Sparkee24's photo for $35 delivered. It has no details other than it's for a 'Massey Ferguson'. No hole diameters or spacing, nothing. Given what I've read on the forum about the lack of standards for three point hitch configuration, I infer it's highly doubtful that it would be a direct fit to my draw bar. Agreed?

Thanks, Toukow

You can always message the seller and ask about the distance between the holes.

Rancho
CK20 HST

 

[NYCheese]

I just finished fabricating a tentative solution to hook a small yard wagon to the huge drawbar on my ck3510. I didn't want to weld anything on the wagon tongue, because my mother still occasionally uses the wagon behind her small garden tractor, while gardening, and I didn't want to prevent her from being able to do that. I also didn't want to weld or bolt anything onto my tractors' drawbar, as I have other implements that I didn't want to cause problems with.

The solution cost me 10 bucks for a piece of scrap rectangular tube steel at the scrapyard. It's not cleaned up or painted yet, but you'll see how simple it was to make. Should be plenty strong for this tiny little wagon, it's 1/4" thick steel.

 

[toukow]

Doesn't that offset go on the trailer/wagon tongue? Typically the trailer/wagon or device being pulled has the "clevis" (2 stacked holes) that go above/below the single hole drawbar of the tractor.

I can see your point in the photos of NYCheese's post. Regardless,and to clarify, I do not wish to tow a trailer of any type, so compatibility with other equipment isn't an issue. I want to be able to put the eye of a large rope into 'something' and secure it. I could always buy the 1.25" pin shackle to accomplish that I guess. The 'offset' piece I referenced on Ebay would seem to accomplish that as well, per Sparkee24's photo, if the holes aren't an issue.

You can always message the seller and ask about the distance between the holes.

Rancho
CK20 HST

I had thought of that Rancho, but don't usually get a response from Ebay dealers on detailed questions. I'll give it a go though.


Man, I have a lot to learn! Thanks, Toukow