Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

[polo1665]

So we want to know what job gives you the right to be above the law. A few who thought thier jobs did that out here have found themselves in conflict and now understand they can not do what they once thought they could.

Could be a surveyor......or maybe work for a utility company.....or property tax assessor. Those are three jobs that might give someone the right to ignore a no trespassing sign.

 

[Deere Dude]

I had a 750 driveway off a main highway that wound through a marshy type woods to a pole shed then on 150' to our house. By the pole shed we had turnaround for our camper which had very marshy ditches. One day from our house I heard an engine racing and some tires spinning up gravel and gravel bouncing on what sounded like metal.

I made my way to my pole shed and there was an inquisitive guy in a pickup with one wheel over the edge and spinning his wheels trying to get out, and gravel was spraying at my truck. As he saw me he stopped spinning and he asked if I could get him unstuck.

I went and looked over my truck and didn't see any dings from the gravel spray so I hesitatingly helped him out of his problem. He was gone and I never thought anymore of it until I drove my truck a few days later. I noticed that my drivers side mirror was shattered. I hadn't noticed that on my previous inspection.

So much for being Mr. Nice Guy.

 

[BigBlue1]

So we want to know what job gives you the right to be above the law. A few who thought thier jobs did that out here have found themselves in conflict and now understand they can not do what they once thought they could.

In some states DNR officers have the right to enter any property to fulfill their job. Though I can't see how the homeowner's actions he was responding to (walking outside to the end of the driveway and asking if he should call 911) could have led to 'felony charges'.

 

[drssg]

Re: Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

The guy who rented at the end of my road, when I bought my place, had a deadhead flag and a sign that said "there is nothing here, worth dying over". I thought it was an interesting mix of signals

A small local business has a COEXIST sticker on their front door. Below that is another sign stating, “Employees are armed.”

So Plan A is to peacefully coexist. If that doesn’t work out, they WILL shoot you!

 

[paulfun9]

Could be a surveyor......or maybe work for a utility company.....or property tax assessor. Those are three jobs that might give someone the right to ignore a no trespassing sign.

Kind of weird to me since all mentioned call ahead or send a letter stating they will be doing work in the area and may have to enter our property.
Kind of wish I had one of those scanners because I actually have the last letter from the last survey job that adjoined my property.
I would bet if you searched many jobs that think they can do whatever they want you will find that they have written rules they are supposed to follow. There is no doubt in my mind that some areas have granted people the right to do things they really have no authority to grant and others have buried those old written rules so deep you will need to dig a deep mine shaft to find them.
Regaurless The poster did nothing that they could be arrested for no matter what this persons job is!

 

[TractorGuy]

Kind of weird to me since all mentioned call ahead or send a letter stating they will be doing work in the area and may have to enter our property.
Kind of wish I had one of those scanners because I actually have the last letter from the last survey job that adjoined my property.
I would bet if you searched many jobs that think they can do whatever they want you will find that they have written rules they are supposed to follow. There is no doubt in my mind that some areas have granted people the right to do things they really have no authority to grant and others have buried those old written rules so deep you will need to dig a deep mine shaft to find them.
Regaurless The poster did nothing that they could be arrested for no matter what this persons job is!

Not around here they won't. I've had surveyors come on my property and leave 10" nails stuck in the ground with a piece of tape on it. They have done it twice while surveying adjoining property and left them. I had to hunt the nails and pull them so they wouldn't end up in a tractor tire.The heck of it is they place them 10 feet on my side of the line. I spoke to the surveyor about it and told him they needed to remove the nails when they were done and his reply was the nails would stay put. I told him the nails would come right up when I disc a fire line.

Wife was standing in the back yard when the last surveyor just climbed over the fence and walked up on our property. Scared tha bajesus out of her.

The state lists several occupations that can trespass without notice. Surveyors, map makers, property appraisers, and some others.

Wife came home one day and found a property appraiser behind our house. He was measuring my carport that has been there for 20 years. That was before I gated the entrance. I called and was told the property appraiser WOULD call for an appointment if you have a gate. He ignored the no trespassing signs. Another reason I now have gates.

I personally have a problem with ANYONE just showing up on my property unannounced. BUT the bottom line is we don't actually OWN our property, the government does. Try not paying the property tax one time and you find out who owns it.

 

[/pine]

These days thanks to the patriot act...anyone with the right creds can basically do anything they want and actually deny a (suspect) citizen any and all of their rights for at least a certain period of time...

On a lessor note...In most places if a 911 return call does not satisfy the personnel they (the police) have the right to enter the house/building cited to the phone number that originally dialed 911...without any warrant or anything...they can legally break a door down...

 

[cdb2]

BUT the bottom line is we don't actually OWN our property, the government does. Try not paying the property tax one time and you find out who owns it.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[MossRoad]

So a bunch of us want to be literal about the meaning of the words "no trespassing" but we can fudge on the meaning of property ownership? You own the property. If you can't afford to pay the taxes, that's an entirely different issue.

Cafeteria-style interpretation of the laws, where you pick and choose what you want to follow, appears to be an American tradition.

 

[TheMan419]

These threads always go off on this tangent........