Shuttle Shift or Hydrostatic.....

[ovrszd]

You can change the sensitivity mode on the go, yes. It's a rocker switch left side of the console.

Thats not what he asked.

 

[cdb2]

Thats not what he asked.

The post he asked the question in response to was describing the three sensitivity modes of the hydro setting and when you would want to use the low, medium or high settings. Sure seemed like that was what he asking about. But regardless, he got answers for both the mode sensitivity settings and the trans ranges. So, what is the point of your comment?

 

[ovrszd]

The post he asked the question in response to was describing the three sensitivity modes of the hydro setting and when you would want to use the low, medium or high settings. Sure seemed like that was what he asking about. But regardless, he got answers for both the mode sensitivity settings and the trans ranges. So, what is the point of your comment?

Everybody understood he was asking about the hydro ranges,,, except you.

 

[Pecan Farming]

I hate to weigh in on this since I have been listening to the arguments of gear vs. hydrostatic on these forums for 20 years. But...

It all depends on how you will use the tractor and the terrain you have. We have rolling terrain with a couple steep places, plus a ditch in which we place brush. I'll tell you it's comforting to be able to "creep" to the edge without worrying about it rolling into the ditch when changing directions. The hydrostatic almost serves as a "dead man" switch - foot off the pedal and the tractor stops mostly. In addition (at least on mine NH and soon-to-come RK) you can have right foot on the hydro and the left on the brakes for pinpoint control. As to the power loss, check the requirements of the implements you will be using - for non-PTO ground-engaging implements (box scraper, 2-bottom plow, etc.) and loader work, weight and traction are more the issues. The biggest PTO issue for me is brush cutter and rear tiller - 40hp engine/33hp PTO on my NH has never been an issue for 72".

Weight and HP are not a problem for me on the RK55HC.

My two-cents.

I am a new member but I have been following these forums for many years and driving tractors for over 40 years. I too have read many lengthy hydro vs. gear threads. I always wanted to get in on one. This is fun!

 

[BRMyers]

My dad was explaining why his geared tractor was better for mowing, "I can just put it in gear, set my throttle and I'm good to go".

I asked dad to come over and get in my cab, I pointed out the the switch on the right side of the dash. He wanted to know what it was, which I replied, cruise control. I don't have to keep my foot on the pedal, set the cruise and go. I told him it frees me up to do more important things like adjust the radio or the air conditioning, which at this point he got out of the cab. I wasn't to sure that he wasn't going to get a switch to light up my backside. :laughing:

I have to admit, I never knew that I could have this much fun with dad and tractors.

 

[cdb2]

Everybody understood he was asking about the hydro ranges,,, except you.

I see, you are the sort of person who enjoys pointing out errors in others. The ignore list was created for fools like you. So long.

 

[gunny0628]

I appreciate the information that is given and shared on these forums. But I asked questions because I didn’t have the answers. So many people responded positively and constructively, either here or by sending me a personal message.

But I will never understand why people must treat other people with such distain. There’s no point to it. How miserable there lives must be.

Probably why I’m not on social media. Probably why I will lurk on here and not interact.

I don’t boast about my accomplishments, I won’t put anyone down because it makes me feel good, because it doesn’t. I wont make someone feel bad about their knowledge base because everyone starts at the same place.

Thank you to those that responded to my original question with answers that really helped me.

Thanks Craig for all your help off to the side.

 

[Tennsawdust]

I know this topic has been hit a couple of times. I plan on taking delivery of my 55SC in a week. I originally planned on getting the hydro until I went to the store and the tractor manager told me I壇 be better off with a shuttle.

I am cutting about 8 acres for a horse farm. Mostly pastures. I am also cutting my house lawn, approximately 1.5 acres. Most of the house grass will be cut with a finish mower. I will be clearing some trees and some pretty large rocks in our pastures.

I understand how the hydrostatic works. But I知 not quit sure on the shuttle shift. I just read another forum where it discussed the RK shuttle and someone said it isn稚 a true shuttle where you can shift as you are moving.

Can someone just explain how the shuttle would work as I am moving. I understand I have to stop and push the clutch in to go from forward to reverse. Do I have to clutch in order to shift?

Thanks. And told you I壇 ask some questions.

The RK55 has a synchronized shuttle shift with creeper gear. Since the main transmission gears (not the range gears, but the main transmission) are synchronized you can shift on the fly. That is a lot more convenient for mowing than the older tractors where you have to stop to shift gears.

The synchro shuttle might actually be able to move slower than the hydro due to the creeper gear. That is probably where the manager is coming from. Personally, though I prefer a hydro for mowing. It makes it much easier to make transitions in speed and direction. Of course, if you are mowing relatively flat, open fields it isn't that big of a deal.

 

[k0ua]

I made a little video a while back to illustrate how slow you can move with a hydro tractor if you want to.

 

[ovrszd]

I see, you are the sort of person who enjoys pointing out errors in others. The ignore list was created for fools like you. So long.

If I posted something that hurt your feelings I apologize. I do not however apologize for the content of my posts.

Any time there's a comparative thread there will be differing opinions. That's intentional and unavoidable.

The important thing is that the content is as accurate as possible especially if the thread is concerning a first tractor owner or a new brand. In this thread we have both.

In the end, if someone later stumbles onto this thread, we as contributors should hope we've added good content.

The ignore feature does nothing to assure that.

 

[gunny0628]

If I posted something that hurt your feelings I apologize. I do not however apologize for the content of my posts.

Any time there's a comparative thread there will be differing opinions. That's intentional and unavoidable.

The important thing is that the content is as accurate as possible especially if the thread is concerning a first tractor owner or a new brand. In this thread we have both.

In the end, if someone later stumbles onto this thread, we as contributors should hope we've added good content.

The ignore feature does nothing to assure that.

It’s all good.

 

[markie61]

But how bout on your RK?

Ha! I'll let you know when I get it...

 

[ovrszd]

Ha! I'll let you know when I get it...

I think someone posted that the brake pedals are controlled by the left foot, Hydro by the right foot.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I don't buy into any of the hydro BS, I have both and I prefer the shuttle...

My wife drives either one without complaint...

BTW, maintenance cost on the "shuttle" are less $ too...

SR

 

[ovrszd]

I don't buy into any of the hydro BS, I have both and I prefer the shuttle...

My wife drives either one without complaint...

BTW, maintenance cost on the "shuttle" are less $ too...

SR

I have Hydro on the subcompact JD 23HP used for mowing. I have mechanical 8spd shuttle on the Ford 47HP used for many tasks. I have Hydraulic Shuttle on the Kubota 95HP. Each is equipped just right for me.

 

[gunny0628]

I’ve decided to go with the 55 cab hydro and purchase from RK based on the feedback here and from my conversations with the manager at the store who puts it all together.

Thanks for all the input from everyone here. I’m sure I will get a lot of use out of the tractor over the years.

I’m scheduled for delivery next Wednesday when we get back from the mountains.

 

[k0ua]

I’ve decided to go with the 55 cab hydro and purchase from RK based on the feedback here and from my conversations with the manager at the store who puts it all together.

Thanks for all the input from everyone here. I’m sure I will get a lot of use out of the tractor over the years.

I’m scheduled for delivery next Wednesday when we get back from the mountains.

Please let us know what you think of it after you have used it for a while.. i would be interested to know. Good and bad.

 

[aczlan]

We have a couple of smaller tractors with hydrostatic transmissions, and a L3830GST with a Glide Shift Transmission (Kubota's version of Power Shift).
I grew up on a older Massey Ferguson industrial that was a manual clutch, shuttle shift.
Out of the three, for loader work I would go with the hydrostatic hands down. The Glide Shift Transmission would be a second, but a distant second.

Aaron Z

 

[goeduck]

I’ve decided to go with the 55 cab hydro and purchase from RK based on the feedback here and from my conversations with the manager at the store who puts it all together.

Thanks for all the input from everyone here. I’m sure I will get a lot of use out of the tractor over the years.

I’m scheduled for delivery next Wednesday when we get back from the mountains.

Congratulations !

 

[Professor Marvel]

This may help explain why Hydro can be so precise ...

On the gear, in addition to how you shift from forward to reverse, the speed is controlled by pressing the accelerator pedal (I won't call it a "gas" pedal since the tractor is diesel) and shifting is done with your hand.

With any of the HST tractors I have used, speed and direction is determined by pressing the pedal(s) in the direction you wish to go since the engine speed is constant and set by a throttle. Your hands are free to drive and operate the loader or other equipment levers.

I have used plain gear, shuttle and HST - I'll take the HST for all-purpose tractor work any day.

YES THIS