Jd vs kubota

[nards444]

I have heard this from alot of owners.. Why i am afraid of lower horsepower low weight tractors.

Before I bought my tractor I tried my buddies 57 Hp kubota, really the same results tbh. No tractor is going to be as good as dedicated earth moving equipment. Id save the money for a smaller machine to tackle legacy task and, rent for a few bucks the right stuff and have it knocked out in a few days to a week.

I think youll find with tractors just by going bigger doesnt mean it really gets better per say, hard to explain. for instance I used the 57hp tractor to brush hog and it really didnt do it faster but the deck was a foot bigger than the one I used on my 26 hp tractor, really took almost the same amount of time. Same with moving dirt, bucket was a tad bigger but still did the job crappy.


I may stray from the pack some here. But after buying my tractor ( i dont have a farm or anything, dont collect wood etc) with that said I would not be spending 20k plus on a tractor on a second home, unless money wasnt a factor. Youll never get the use out of it to justify. Unless you were to trailer back and forth to main home. Also I know there are better and bigger tractor than mine and its a fantastic machine but I have found out that a tractor is kind of a jack of all trades master of none so to speak, keep that in mind.

 

[Bryan1965]

Beautiful area!

yes it is. Will spend alot of time there and probably after I retire look at living there most of the time

 

[Bryan1965]

Before I bought my tractor I tried my buddies 57 Hp kubota, really the same results tbh. No tractor is going to be as good as dedicated earth moving equipment. Id save the money for a smaller machine to tackle legacy task and, rent for a few bucks the right stuff and have it knocked out in a few days to a week.

I think youll find with tractors just buying going bigger doesnt mean it really gets better per say, hard to explain. for instance I used the 57hp tractor to brush hog and it really didnt do it faster but the deck was a foot bigger than the one I used on my 26 hp tractor, really took almost the same amount of time. Same with moving dirt, bucket was a tad bigger but still did the job crappy.


I may stray from the pack some here. But after buying my tractor ( i dont have a farm or anything, dont collect wood etc) with that said I would not be spending 20k plus on a tractor on a second home, unless money wasnt a factor. Youll never get the use out of it to justify. Unless you were to trailer back and forth to main home. Also I know there are better and bigger tractor than mine and its a fantastic machine but I have found out that a tractor is kind of a jack of all trades master of none so to speak, keep that in mind.

I hear ya. I am looking for something that will last for a long time.. so want to get it right the first time if possible.

I will hardly put hours as you said. Thus it should last

 

[Diggin It]

I hear ya. I am looking for something that will last for a long time.. so want to get it right the first time if possible.

I will hardly put hours as you said. Thus it should last

Sitting unused isn't always best. Things rust, corrode, attract insects and critters like mice and chipmunks for nesting. Fuel and lubricants gum up, seals dry out ....

Not the mention the area dirtbags who like to make your stuff theirs.

 

[Bryan1965]

Sitting unused isn't always best. Things rust, corrode, attract insects and critters like mice and chipmunks for nesting. Fuel and lubricants gum up, seals dry out ....

Not the mention the area dirtbags who like to make your stuff theirs.

Oh it will be used whenever we are out there which is at the least every other weekend.it will be out doing something, especially if grandkids are there and it will be stored inside

 

[Bryan1965]

Well the kubota dealer was nice, gave me a quote on a L3301 with hydrostatic and FEL. Ag tires. Quote came in at 23. The RK37 has to be one of the nicest tractor for its size I ever road on, package wise it had a lot of upgrades, plus fluid filled tires, The used 2016 L3901HST is their now, 1800 no filled tires. And missing a lot the rk has, but also 1800. Of course with that I will need to take a loan with about 4% instead of zero percent.

Guess I will be deep in thought the next 24!

 

[3gunr]

I have a mahindra 2538 ,its the same as the rk 37. last yr i filled a hole on the overerflow of my lake . the hole was big enough to drop a pickup truck in. I was digging dirt out of a hillside and dumping it in the hole . i filled it in about 2 hrs. so dont tell me you cant dig with a tractor. Between my self and 2 of my kids i maintane over 375 acres. alot of that is mowing grading digging tilling disking and brush hogging. most guys just dont know what you really can do with a small tractor.

 

[3gunr]

Also a good toothbar is a must for digging as well as time of yr .spring and early summer before things get to dry. once the ground gets hard dont bother until after some good rains.

 

[Bryan1965]

Also a good toothbar is a must for digging as well as time of yr .spring and early summer before things get to dry. once the ground gets hard dont bother until after some good rains.

that was gonna be one of my first additions. Any recommendations on a good one that is easily removed

 

[WoodDuck]

that was gonna be one of my first additions. Any recommendations on a good one that is easily removed

I've got no complaints about my Piranha tooth bar. One bolt in each side of the bucket. Several other tooth bars are designed similar, including the EA Wicked Tooth Bar. I've never found a need to take my tooth bar off at all. Anything I'm doing with the bucket works better with the tooth bar on it for me. As far as the RK tractors, all the Rural King stores in my area that I visited are sales centers for RK tractors, but not service centers. In other words, they would gladly sell me a tractor, but I couldn't bring it to them for service if anything went wrong with it. That scratched them off my list immediately. I'm not a tractor mechanic, nor do I have big enough tools or work space to become one anytime soon. I needed a servicing dealership for whatever tractor I bought, so they can come get it if something needs fixed. This weighed heavily on my decision. Invest in a quality servicing dealership in your area, regardless of the tractor color you choose.

 

[rScotty]

Quote Originally Posted by nards444 View Post
I just built my house and also have a tractor 2650 Kubota somewhat smaller then what your looking at, but overall going to be roughly accomplishing the same tasks. With that said I started doing some landscaping(4 acres) and after about an hour of it quit, the tractor just isnt meant for efficient dirt work. I borrowed a skid steer and probably had more done in 2-3 hours than that tractor would have done in a day. IN the spring im going to rent a skid steer for 300 for the weekend and be done with it, vs monkeying with it on this tractor for days maybe weeks.

I have heard this from alot of owners.. Why i am afraid of lower horsepower low weight tractors.

From what you are saying, you may want to look at older ex-farm Utility tractors. Insist on a loader, PS, and gears rather than hydrostat, if your area is muddy or snowy, add 4wd to the "must have" category.

You are sure right that a larger machine does work faster. At first it seems like the small machine is going to win out doing big jobs because it is so handy and works so much faster than doing the work with a shovel & wheelbarrow. But then your neighbor comes over with his old 4020 JD and you see what a couple of passes will do pulling an 2000# 8 foot blade. Then he turns around and it's scary how much dirt a larger tractor will move around. It's a whole new world.

The good news is that old style tractors are incredibly durable. A used one that works well for a day will probably work just the same for years to come.

Relative to skid steers, Utility size tractors in the 40 to 60 hp range have the power and weight to work with a skid steer. I'm not knocking skid steers; they are great in a limited area. But they just are not as versatile, or as good for transporting longer distances, and tough on any grass surface. And no 3pt . Plus good ones are more expensive than tractors. For the money I'd buy a used tractor over a used skid steer.
rScotty

 

[nards444]

From what you are saying, you may want to look at older ex-farm Utility tractors. Insist on a loader, PS, and gears rather than hydrostat, if your area is muddy or snowy, add 4wd to the "must have" category.

You are sure right that a larger machine does work faster. At first it seems like the small machine is going to win out doing big jobs because it is so handy and works so much faster than doing the work with a shovel & wheelbarrow. But then your neighbor comes over with his old 4020 JD and you see what a couple of passes will do pulling an 2000# 8 foot blade. Then he turns around and it's scary how much dirt a larger tractor will move around. It's a whole new world.

The good news is that old style tractors are incredibly durable. A used one that works well for a day will probably work just the same for years to come.

Relative to skid steers, Utility size tractors in the 40 to 60 hp range have the power and weight to work with a skid steer. I'm not knocking skid steers; they are great in a limited area. But they just are not as versatile, or as good for transporting longer distances, and tough on any grass surface. And no 3pt . Plus good ones are more expensive than tractors. For the money I'd buy a used tractor over a used skid steer.
rScotty

Good points I wasnt advocating for a skid steer to buy one. Point was the tractor is a versatile tool and if your buying one machine, thats the one to get. My point being was if you are doing a lot of earth work up front it might be more worthwhile to use a skid steer to do get done quickly or an Ex. Then of course the tractor can be used to accomplish random dirt task. while limited in scope the skid steer or an ex will run circles around a tractor in terms of earth work.

 

[murphy1244]

If you use the Kubota 0% loan you must have replacement insurance or you will be buying their insurance.

 

[nards444]

If you use the Kubota 0% loan you must have replacement insurance or you will be buying their insurance.

You can have other insurance it doesnt have to be Kubotas, even though the dealer may make it sound that way. The KTAC or kubota insurance was priced right anyways. With that said buying a 20-30k machine having insurance on it makes sense anyways.

 

[ovrszd]

You can have other insurance it doesnt have to be Kubotas, even though the dealer may make it sound that way.

Pretty sure that's what Murph was saying.

 

[murphy1244]

Pretty sure that's what Murph was saying.

I tried anywho

 

[Bryan1965]

I am gonna go look at the 2016 L3901 tomorrow depending on how it really is, I may take the plunge.

 

[3gunr]

that was gonna be one of my first additions. Any recommendations on a good one that is easily removed

I have a pirahna on the 2538 and love it .I also have standard tooth bars on my other 2 compacts and like them for digging. The regular tooth bars make loading things with a chain real easy where the pirahna not so much. The pirahna is better for scraping the ground clear of small brush and saplings.

 

[Bryan1965]

I have a pirahna on the 2538 and love it .I also have standard tooth bars on my other 2 compacts and like them for digging. The regular tooth bars make loading things with a chain real easy where the pirahna not so much. The pirahna is better for scraping the ground clear of small brush and saplings.

Thank you this is good info

 

[Bryan1965]

Well I took the plunge meet my new tractor, Kubota l3900.