Spreading Stone, who else shakes it on?

[s219]

I'm late to this thread, and frankly I hadn't even thought about these issues until now. It makes me curious what's involved in becoming a sponsor of TBN? I can't find anything about it on the home page, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place. I doubt if it costs very much. So that makes me wonder: If Outdoors With Tractor Mike becomes a sponsor, doesn't the whole dust-up go away? :confused3:

It's very affordable to become a sponsor here. I looked into it at one point for my business. See the "Advertising" link at the very bottom of every page on the forum.

 

[s219]

One major difference that you are overlooking is everyone you mentioned advertise here in an attempt to persuade TBN members to buy their products and or services. Thats fantastic, win win, the difference is my videos are free to watch for anyone, costs them nothing and some people find them helpful. In other words I am not asking anyone to send me money in exchange for a product or service. Now since thats out of the way let me say this, It's my belief that the ones that have an issue with me sharing a video really has nothing to do with the reasons they mention. It's deeper than that,I have been doing this long enough to understand that some people for some reason just have a problem with youtube creators earning money for their work. I don't know if its jealousy or what it is because my brain doesn't work that way. I like to see people do well, I love seeing anyone that puts in the work and is passionate about what they do succeed. Some people really have no idea what it takes to run a channel, filming, editing, answering comments, emails, facebook messages answering questions. Its a ton of work but we love doing it or we wouldn't be. Others may understand that there is a lot of work involved but just don't like seeing others doing well.

I understand how much work goes into videos, and respect/appreciate that. I love videos by guys like Paul Short, Doug Demuro, and others. But I don't think it's appropriate to link to videos here on TBN without being upfront about the profits/revenue, or registering as an advertiser. Whatever your intentions, if you are profiting from video views then I just don't see how you can be ethical or objective about this.

 

[Threepoint]

I just went back to my post #79 and corrected the name of Mike's channel. Sorry, Mike! I'd inadvertently conflated two channels.

 

[Citydude]

One major difference that you are overlooking is everyone you mentioned advertise here in an attempt to persuade TBN members to buy their products and or services. Thats fantastic, win win, the difference is my videos are free to watch for anyone, costs them nothing and some people find them helpful. In other words I am not asking anyone to send me money in exchange for a product or service. Now since thats out of the way let me say this, It's my belief that the ones that have an issue with me sharing a video really has nothing to do with the reasons they mention. It's deeper than that,I have been doing this long enough to understand that some people for some reason just have a problem with youtube creators earning money for their work. I don't know if its jealousy or what it is because my brain doesn't work that way. I like to see people do well, I love seeing anyone that puts in the work and is passionate about what they do succeed. Some people really have no idea what it takes to run a channel, filming, editing, answering comments, emails, facebook messages answering questions. Its a ton of work but we love doing it or we wouldn't be. Others may understand that there is a lot of work involved but just don't like seeing others doing well.

Here is my take on the push back Mike. It's like the long lost uncle Eddie showing up at the family gathering going around saying hi but everyone knows his side gig and suspects he's there for another reason. Money. Maybe show up to the gatherings more? You have a large community on your channel because your very active on it. Here, not so much that I can tell. Not to discourage you from posting anything here, it's open for everyone, just a shot at an explanation.

 

[ovrszd]

Well said, Threepoint.

I gotta learn how to be more eloquent in my comments.

But it gives the opposition someone to pounce on. All the while my point is being reinforced by those with a better understanding of debate.

 

[GeneV]

I suppose there could be a policy instituted here, gotta put in a short disclaimer when posting monetized videos.

 

[snymat68]

Mike...
I've been watching your videos since #1. I like the content.
Keep'm coming, and know there are a bunch of us (even on these forums) that appreciate the work you put in.
Some folks on here just like to stir the pot. Don't let'm get under your skin.
As for the material spreading technique, shaking really seems to work well for a nice even layer. But I do have to wonder, if you do a lot of it, over time, will it damage the hydraulics?

(Most) Everyone else... h o l y h e l l.
Life is too short to sit at a keyboard and argue about the kind of stuff that's being argued about in this thread. I'm only 33 and I've already figured that out.
If it bothers you that much, pull up your big girl panties, don't watch the video, and go spend your time as you see fit.

I joined this forum to learn and enjoy tractor related things. And to contribute when I where I can. I imagine most of you did as well.
If that content happens to come from someone who's making a couple bucks for providing it, who cares? If anything, I'm grateful for it.
I'd rather have the content and information available to me, and the creators compensated, than the alternative.

I'm grateful we live in a time when such a wealth of information (and sense of community) is so readily available.
Sometimes I think we lose site of the bigger picture and get caught up in the trivial stuff.

So, thanks to Mike, and anyone else that has taught me something about tractors. Whether on this forum, YouTube, or elsewhere.
I appreciate it. And like my signature says... Life is short. Play with tractors! :thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

Mike...
I've been watching your videos since #1. I like the content.
Keep'm coming, and know there are a bunch of us (even on these forums) that appreciate the work you put in.
Some folks on here just like to stir the pot. Don't let'm get under your skin.
As for the material spreading technique, shaking really seems to work well for a nice even layer. But I do have to wonder, if you do a lot of it, over time, will it damage the hydraulics?

(Most) Everyone else... h o l y h e l l.
Life is too short to sit at a keyboard and argue about the kind of stuff that's being argued about in this thread. I'm only 33 and I've already figured that out.
If it bothers you that much, pull up your big girl panties, don't watch the video, and go spend your time as you see fit.

I joined this forum to learn and enjoy tractor related things. And to contribute when I where I can. I imagine most of you did as well.
If that content happens to come from someone who's making a couple bucks for providing it, who cares? If anything, I'm grateful for it.
I'd rather have the content and information available to me, and the creators compensated, than the alternative.

I'm grateful we live in a time when such a wealth of information (and sense of community) is so readily available.
Sometimes I think we lose site of the bigger picture and get caught up in the trivial stuff.

So, thanks to Mike, and anyone else that has taught me something about tractors. Whether on this forum, YouTube, or elsewhere.
I appreciate it. And like my signature says... Life is short. Play with tractors! :thumbsup:

So who is wrong here??? You for stating your opinion or me for stating mine???

 

[arrow]

Wait.... people make money on You Tube? I logged for 30 years and I could have been filming all that crap? I can't even recall taking a "snap shot" at work. My boss was already chewing nails. I wonder what would have happened if he caught any of us standing around and saying "cheez".
Man, I'd go back in time just to see that.

 

[snymat68]

That's just it. Nobody is wrong. I'm just saying aren't there better ways for everyone to spend their time than quibbling over such trivial things online?

So who is wrong here??? You for stating your opinion or me for stating mine???