Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,841  
Well to my great dismay, it looks like the Woodmax may be worth the 2700 usd they are asking for. The titan implement grey flail looks good, but it's not on their website? Found some online brochures with 3 grades of flails, but there is no pricing. Also looks like the smallest one they make is 6'. I am thinking 5' would be a better match for me.

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Hello Troverman,


Check the Everything attachments site for the Sicma flail mowers.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,842  
These stories of the Chicomm mowers is the reason I would never buy them. I was about to pull the trigger on a 7' or 8' Woodmaxx when I came across a well used Alamo for $1200. While it is well used (Illinois Tollway), it still does a great job. I'll be replacing the rear roller soon along with the roller bearing housings as the roller is dented up and the bearings are loose in the housings. Some of the rotor tabs are a little bent. It does have a vibration from 400-500 PTO rpm, but seems to be decent at 540 (still slight vibration when hanging). For my uses I'll use this thing until it completely falls apart, then probably buy a Woodmaxx with side shift. Or possibly build my own before then.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,843  
Can you clarify what you mean by getting 3 or 4 years?
What do you expect to happen that would cause you to need to buy a new one?

I expect that some of the mounting stations will probably break off and need to be re-welded; the housing may warp like the Titans, and the uprights that locate the top link may eventually shear off. If these things happen, I will repair it up to a point, at which time it will probably be vibrating due to out of balance, if the housing warps than you start to have bearing issues, etc. At that point probably better to try something else. The Woodmaax is definitely better than the Titan, but it is still made in china.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,844  
Thank you for your suggestion but for my particular pasture (not flat) I don稚 want to lower the ground clearance of the mower. If the shaft was to hit a rock it would cost me much more to replace it than just replacing the skids every 4 years ($37.00 each).

I know this is old. If you want to save the surface of the skids buy some hardface welding rod and hardface the bottom of the skids.
By welding in a pattern it also will fill with dirt to help protect.
Really cheap protection.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,845  
Well to my great dismay, it looks like the Woodmax may be worth the 2700 usd they are asking for. The titan implement grey flail looks good, but it's not on their website? Found some online brochures with 3 grades of flails, but there is no pricing. Also looks like the smallest one they make is 6'. I am thinking 5' would be a better match for me.

They make down to a 4' model. It's a few clicks to find the mowers, not the handiest website. And you won't find pricing since they sell through dealers and not direct. Titan 11 Series Mower this should get you to the correct page. Not discouraging you from the Woodmax though, that looks like a good mower.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,846  
These stories of the Chicomm mowers is the reason I would never buy them. I was about to pull the trigger on a 7' or 8' Woodmaxx when I came across a well used Alamo for $1200. While it is well used (Illinois Tollway), it still does a great job. I'll be replacing the rear roller soon along with the roller bearing housings as the roller is dented up and the bearings are loose in the housings. Some of the rotor tabs are a little bent. It does have a vibration from 400-500 PTO rpm, but seems to be decent at 540 (still slight vibration when hanging). For my uses I'll use this thing until it completely falls apart, then probably buy a Woodmaxx with side shift. Or possibly build my own before then.

I do not know that "by the pound" is a good measure (as some others have been discussing) but my SHD88 Alamo weighs 1035 lbs. , several hundred lbs more than the oft mentioned Chinese variety. Hey Farmer, I replaced my roller bearings last year. They are pressed in and normal hobby farmers like me have no way to replace just the bearings. The whole (heavy) housing with new bearings installed was $150 per side with tax so it cost me $300 at a John Deere dealer who provides parts for state road, etc. Not sure why you would replace the roller itself (?) unless it is really badly beat up or bent. Mine is older than the hills and looks like **** (also a highway Dept. history I think) but seems to function just fine. If you have vibration (that being a kind of subjective thing -- how much vibration?) that has always meant something damaged or missing on mine. A single knife broken off will cause some vibration & a whole clevis and knife pair missing causes pretty nasty vibration as I'm sure you know. I came across my aged Alamo in an auction for $275 which turns out to be the best buy in tractor stuff I ever made !!
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,847  
I expect that some of the mounting stations will probably break off and need to be re-welded; the housing may warp like the Titans, and the uprights that locate the top link may eventually shear off. If these things happen, I will repair it up to a point, at which time it will probably be vibrating due to out of balance, if the housing warps than you start to have bearing issues, etc. At that point probably better to try something else. The Woodmaax is definitely better than the Titan, but it is still made in china.

Yikes! Mounting stations breaking off? I've seen some pretty hard looking older flails but none had mounting stations broken off. Is this common ?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,848  
lots of negative reading on flail mowers in one place. maybe something good?

This spring I purchased a Betstco 60" medium duty flail mower. Got a great spring deal. even doubled my warranty to 4 years.
2 days later it showed up.
sold the rock thrower brush cutter and never looked back.
Works as intended. quiet. and no issues. Built well. Great customer service and tech support. ( had a greasing question).
Ordered extra blades & belts and had them here next day.

Is it better, worse than others??? only time will tell but I dont see any upcoming issues to be worried about.

Hope this helps someone looking.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,849  
Anyone ever heard of a Concept Perugini? made in Italy, model XT-140. The top link section looks a bit flimsy, and the weight is just ok. 463lbs for a 5ft machine.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #6,850  
I do not know that "by the pound" is a good measure (as some others have been discussing) but my SHD88 Alamo weighs 1035 lbs. , several hundred lbs more than the oft mentioned Chinese variety. Hey Farmer, I replaced my roller bearings last year. They are pressed in and normal hobby farmers like me have no way to replace just the bearings. The whole (heavy) housing with new bearings installed was $150 per side with tax so it cost me $300 at a John Deere dealer who provides parts for state road, etc. Not sure why you would replace the roller itself (?) unless it is really badly beat up or bent. Mine is older than the hills and looks like **** (also a highway Dept. history I think) but seems to function just fine. If you have vibration (that being a kind of subjective thing -- how much vibration?) that has always meant something damaged or missing on mine. A single knife broken off will cause some vibration & a whole clevis and knife pair missing causes pretty nasty vibration as I'm sure you know. I came across my aged Alamo in an auction for $275 which turns out to be the best buy in tractor stuff I ever made !!

The roller is pretty badly beat up. I also plan on going with a thicker wall for the roller. Flailmaster had the end caps all I need to do is have someone get tubing and make sure the cap will fit in it. Flailmaster also had the housing assembly with bearing for less than $100. Otherwise you can drill hole in the housing so you can drive the bearing out, then tap it half way down and use a set screw to fill the hole again.

Not sure where the vibration is coming from. All new knives and hangers so they all match. The bearings seem to be good (no play that I can find). Might just be because some of the tabs have some wear and are bent.

"By the pound" has merit. Thicker housing material will not warp as easily, and it will handle impacts and load better. Thicker rotor wall and roller wall will make it stronger. Thicker arms will prevent twisting and breakage.
 
 

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